Joe Calzages resume: how could he have improved it?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

His division just wasnt that great. He needed a defining fight to get the attention of the big names and that didnt arrive until the Lacy fight by which time Jones was done and Hopkins was older. The fight with Jones just wasnt viable and Hopkins backed out of their proposed fight.

People say he should've moved up and fought Glen Johnson. Maybe, but who would have really gave a **** if he beat him at the time? Would've been another "nobody". Johnson's claim to fame was KOing Jones which came after Joe pulled out injured.

[Lead Cenobite]

by forcing hopkins to grow balls and fight him earlier.

Not wasting time with an epic trilogy over Mario Veit. LOL@You. ****ing ******.

[Lead Cenobite]

I hope that was sarcasm there otherwise you are taking the danm right piss even mentioning that no hoper ottke who is a complete joke.

Well Joe did duck him

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Not wasting time with an epic trilogy over Mario Veit. LOL@You. ****ing ******.

He should've been more productive and had an epic trilogy with Robert Allen.

[Lead Cenobite]

His division just wasnt that great. He needed a defining fight to get the attention of the big names and that didnt arrive until the Lacy fight by which time Jones was done and Hopkins was older. The fight with Jones just wasnt viable and Hopkins backed out of their proposed fight.

People say he should've moved up and fought Glen Johnson. Maybe, but who would have really gave a **** if he beat him at the time? Would've been another "nobody". Johnson's claim to fame was KOing Jones which came after Joe pulled out injured.

Joking aside I mostly agree with this other than the implication that Hopkins not fighting him was a back out.

The only thing I'd add is that he could have jumped to 175 anytime since he was having a hard time making weight.

How do you feel about Warren recently saying Joe faked a lot of his injuries and pulled out of fights due to lack of confidence? Joking aside...

[Lead Cenobite]

He should've been more productive and had an epic trilogy with Robert Allen.

Robert Allen > Mario Veit.

[IMDAZED]

TBD > Mario Veit.

Fixed for you.

[gingeralbino]

Joking aside I mostly agree with this other than the implication that Hopkins not fighting him was a back out.

The only thing I'd add is that he could have jumped to 175 anytime since he was having a hard time making weight.

How do you feel about Warren recently saying Joe faked a lot of his injuries and pulled out of fights due to lack of confidence? Joking aside...

Frank Warren is a lying sack of **** at the best of times, add on to that Calzaghe successfully sued him for millions and Warren had to declare himself bankrupt and u get a not very reliable source.

Although i'd agree with the lack of confidence part.

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Frank Warren is a lying sack of **** at the best of times, add on to that Calzaghe successfully sued him for millions and Warren had to declare himself bankrupt and u get a not very reliable source.

Although i'd agree with the lack of confidence part.

I think Calzaghe did it very often. And his quote about Jones in 2001 shows a lack of confidence. And his "fear of flying" that magically went away.

Simply put I always got the impression that HE AND his father didn't think he was as good as he really was.

So I dunno about Warren being very truthful, but it sounds like the Calzaghe I saw.

[adietheforestfa]

Dawson I agree, Toney was about Cruiserweight when Calzaghe got a belt so I couldn't see that fight ever being viable. Abraham was at middleweight so maybe for the right Money he would of moved up. Was Froch ever a viable opponent when Calzaghe was around? Not familiar with Bute so I cant comment.

Froch was up for Fighting Calzaghe many times but Joe made excuses saying the Cobra was a nobody but went on to face. Ashira, Bika and Manfreeeedo Jr. The minute Froch bacame Joes mandatory he moved up a weight and vacated???????