Comments Thread For: Kessler Hires Montoya as Trainer To Beat Froch

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Tiozzo
    Banned
    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
    • May 2007
    • 6234
    • 278
    • 330
    • 6,886

    #21
    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
    Provide a link where Kessler excused his performance against Calzaghe with the handinjury please. Or else STFU.
    Ok great now let the fun begin. Here is an interview directly taken from Mikkel site.

    Mr. Palle and Kessler left Copenhagen Thursday morning Danish time, as they are supposed to be ringside Saturday at the Calzaghe - Jones fight.

    Who do you see as the winner?
    "It's difficult to say, but if the fight goes the distance, I suspect that Calzaghe will be the winner, but Roy Jones is an excellent counter puncher and he might catch Calzaghe."

    Who would you prefer to box?
    "I would like to get a rematch against Calzaghe and with a right hand that's now working again, I should be able to win. The only problem is, that Joe doesn't want to fight me again at least that is what he told me." Here a bit before his fight against Sartison.

    I still feel mentally and physically stronger than my opponent Sartison as my preparations for this fight has been successful. Both of my hands is working again and if everything goes according to my trainers, Montoya and Richard I should end the fight within six rounds. A bit before, again, on his own site.

    What can you say about a guy like Mikkel? Honestly. He was impressive,even in losing, against Joe Calzaghe, and if his hand really was an issue as he claims a few more solid wins should provide exactly the kind of sparkplug justification to see a rematch with Shoeless Joe Calzaghe.
    The irony is Calzaghe was the one who usually has hand problems.

    In any case Mikkel is slated to fight Dimitri Sartison next. The WBA super middleweight title is at stake in Copenhagen on June 21.

    Laugh as one might, if Vassiliy Jirov was any indication, Sartison may well have been trained by running from onrushing German Shepards, before he was shipped off to their homeland of Germany.

    What do you know about this Dmitri Sartison character who youīre slated to fight?

    "Well I know his record: 22 fights, 14 KO. I saw one of his fights with my trainer Jim Montoya. Heīs a dangerous opponent but Iīm sure Iīll win."

    How is training coming along for the fight?

    "Good. My first time in Big Bear. The air is very thin, and it was difficult at first but I am adjusting to it and getting better and better. In twelve days time I adjusted very well. Did six rounds of sparring today."

    Before his fight with Calzaghe, Bernard Hopkins went on to say he doesnīt think much of you, because you hadnīt done a lot in your career. In retrospect, I think it was said more to try and undermine Calzaghe and his accomplishments in front of the public but that is beside the point. How do you react to such statements? Do you consider it part of the way the sport has to be marketed or do you take it personally?

    "I really havenīt heard or seen what he has said. Did he say good things?"

    Well what he said was he didnīt think Kessler did a lot to that point in his career, but in his own Hopkinsī way of saying things.

    "(Laughing) Oh I only heard he said good things. Of course Iīd like to fight him and kick his ass real bad but that is just a personal wish not having to do much with anything he said.

    I thought the fight with Calzaghe wasnīt a real fight if you ask me."

    Of course I was going to ask. What did you think of Calzaghe-Hopkins?

    "Both are awkward fighters who like to hold a lot and because of that I donīt think it was a real boxing match. They are both good fighters, Hopkins has his routine, Calzaghe too, but they are both match fighters I would say."

    I take it you would fight Calzaghe again too right?

    "Yea thatīs my dream fight if he gave me the rematch. That was my one loss, and Iīm not making an excuse so much as saying the truth about my hand. I hurt it real bad and couldnīt spar well, even one month after the fight. Everything was wrong. Iīve seen a lot of fighters get rematches but he did tell me he wanted to fight me again, and since that is my only loss, of course I want to show him I am a better fighter."http://www.mikkelkessler.com/default.asp?language=enuk#
    Directly from his beautiful mouth and on his beautiful site. Go see and read for yourself. Pick News on the side, and news again. Read the older articles.

    This was great fun. I was about to try and find some footage of Mikkel making excuses live on youtube, but I think I have enough evidence to show I was right and you were wrong. Kessler did make excuses after the Calzaghe fight. I make you eat your words. And it's great ! The other idiots who revered your comments here about me now look as ****** as you do. And it's great !
    Last edited by Tiozzo; 01-14-2010, 11:26 AM. Reason: bigger characters in one line and precision on the link

    Comment

    • BarrySlisk
      Contender
      Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
      • Aug 2007
      • 438
      • 24
      • 12
      • 6,543

      #22
      Originally posted by tourlou82
      This was great fun. I was about to try and find some footage of Mikkel making excuses live on youtube, but I think I have enough evidence to show I was right and you were wrong. !
      My fellow dane Battling is a great guy so I hate to do this, but here is a youtube clip. Go forward to 1:30.



      But if the hand injury was real then I see no problem with it. But now that he also lost to Ward that makes you wonder if he could beat Joe even with good hands. Probably not.

      He also said after the fight with Ward that he thinks that he is a better fighter than him. So yes, he does make excuses.

      Comment

      • Tiozzo
        Banned
        Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
        • May 2007
        • 6234
        • 278
        • 330
        • 6,886

        #23
        Originally posted by Ravens Fan
        I myself find it rather refreshing that Kessler was honest about the fights. At least he did not say the same old lame excuse of, "I had a stomach virus" or "I had a bad training camp." And by stating that another fighter was able to take his strengths away from him sounds like he is saying the other fighter was better. And to me it sounds like he is paying the other fighters one hell of a compliment.
        You have a good point. But he still complained about the referee and the headbutts when we all know the headbutt cuts happened late in the fight when Ward was already whooping his ass.

        Comment

        • Tiozzo
          Banned
          Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
          • May 2007
          • 6234
          • 278
          • 330
          • 6,886

          #24
          Originally posted by BarrySlisk
          My fellow dane Battling is a great guy so I hate to do this, but here is a youtube clip. Go forward to 1:30.



          But if the hand injury was real then I see no problem with it. But now that he also lost to Ward that makes you wonder if he could beat Joe even with good hands. Probably not.

          He also said after the fight with Ward that he thinks that he is a better fighter than him. So yes, he does make excuses.
          Thank you, I really appreciate. It's all about being objective and respectful to the other posters. Learning lesson for your buddy Nelson.

          Comment

          • TheUptownKid
            Undisputed Champion
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Aug 2009
            • 2237
            • 96
            • 69
            • 22,143

            #25
            Originally posted by BattlingNelson
            Interesting that Kessler said that neither he nor his corner found solutions to Wards style. It is interesting because Olsen said that Mikkel wouldn't listen to his instructions............

            Check out the fools below:

            First up is Burner who didn't even bother to read the article before concluding.





            Had he bothered reading Burner would have known that Montoya has worked intensively with Kessler before and was only omitted for the Ward fight.


            And the ****** below says that Kessler didn't give credit despite quoting Kessler as saying that Ward managed to spoil his style. Can he give more credit than that?




            In fact Kessler said he lost to the better man after Ward beat him and he called Ward a great fighter. Add also that Kessler never used his broken hand as an excuse for the Calzaghe defeat but always gave Joe full credit.

            So tourlou isn't really a poster to be taken seriously when he utters his opinions.
            kess actually focused on wards tactics saying he would not have won a fight like this in denmark. commentators stated that he lost with little class and he has not beaten an elite fighter in his career. Ward was the better man he did say that but the focus was on negativity, the fact is he is one dimensional and slow to adapt. He has a great chance vs froch who will allow him to establish distance and will not look to fight inside or move alot or have a high work rate. Froch is extremely overrated IMHO and kesslers polished technique and work rate should serve him well.

            Comment

            • P4P Opinion
              Undisputed Champion
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • Jan 2008
              • 1778
              • 143
              • 73
              • 8,170

              #26
              I don't like Kessler in this fight at all. Calzaghe and Ward brought speed and slickness that Kessler couldn't cope with, but it was their inventiveness that won the fight. Calzaghe starting fighting from the outside nearly exclusively after the equal first half of the fight and Kessler couldn't cope with what he didn't expect. Ward was inventive from the very first round, luring Kessler in and keeping his combinations unusual. Froch has very little technically, but it should be noted that he punches from very unusual angles and I think the lack of predictability will be Kessler's downfall. Kessler's major problem is a lack of adaptability. Froch will have to walk through some big shots, but I think he can wear Kessler down.

              Comment

              • Tiozzo
                Banned
                Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                • May 2007
                • 6234
                • 278
                • 330
                • 6,886

                #27
                Originally posted by H.G.H
                i know exactly what your saying, that AKA PO HA prick gave me red k just because i said i thought the manny vs clotty would look the same as the cotto fight and the ref would call it in 10. some people on here are really really very sad. who really cares about karma. I myself come here to talk boxing not to build up a green bar like some seem to lol.
                Exactly my thoughts, but it appears some people judge us with that ****** karma thing. I think it is mostly frustrated and biased people using that thing. By the way, it's strange, Nelson is nowhere to be found now that I've provided evidence that he is a biased idiot.

                Comment

                • BattlingNelson
                  Mod a Phukka
                  Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 29881
                  • 3,255
                  • 3,200
                  • 286,536

                  #28
                  Originally posted by tourlou82
                  Ok great now let the fun begin. Here is an interview directly taken from Mikkel site.

                  Mr. Palle and Kessler left Copenhagen Thursday morning Danish time, as they are supposed to be ringside Saturday at the Calzaghe - Jones fight.

                  Who do you see as the winner?
                  "It's difficult to say, but if the fight goes the distance, I suspect that Calzaghe will be the winner, but Roy Jones is an excellent counter puncher and he might catch Calzaghe."

                  Who would you prefer to box?
                  "I would like to get a rematch against Calzaghe and with a right hand that's now working again, I should be able to win. The only problem is, that Joe doesn't want to fight me again at least that is what he told me."

                  Here a bit before his fight against Sartison.

                  I still feel mentally and physically stronger than my opponent Sartison as my preparations for this fight has been successful. Both of my hands is working again and if everything goes according to my trainers, Montoya and Richard I should end the fight within six rounds.

                  A bit before, again, on his own site.

                  What can you say about a guy like Mikkel? Honestly. He was impressive,even in losing, against Joe Calzaghe, and if his hand really was an issue as he claims a few more solid wins should provide exactly the kind of sparkplug justification to see a rematch with Shoeless Joe Calzaghe.
                  The irony is Calzaghe was the one who usually has hand problems.

                  In any case Mikkel is slated to fight Dimitri Sartison next. The WBA super middleweight title is at stake in Copenhagen on June 21.

                  Laugh as one might, if Vassiliy Jirov was any indication, Sartison may well have been trained by running from onrushing German Shepards, before he was shipped off to their homeland of Germany.

                  What do you know about this Dmitri Sartison character who youīre slated to fight?

                  "Well I know his record: 22 fights, 14 KO. I saw one of his fights with my trainer Jim Montoya. Heīs a dangerous opponent but Iīm sure Iīll win."

                  How is training coming along for the fight?

                  "Good. My first time in Big Bear. The air is very thin, and it was difficult at first but I am adjusting to it and getting better and better. In twelve days time I adjusted very well. Did six rounds of sparring today."

                  Before his fight with Calzaghe, Bernard Hopkins went on to say he doesnīt think much of you, because you hadnīt done a lot in your career. In retrospect, I think it was said more to try and undermine Calzaghe and his accomplishments in front of the public but that is beside the point. How do you react to such statements? Do you consider it part of the way the sport has to be marketed or do you take it personally?

                  "I really havenīt heard or seen what he has said. Did he say good things?"

                  Well what he said was he didnīt think Kessler did a lot to that point in his career, but in his own Hopkinsī way of saying things.

                  "(Laughing) Oh I only heard he said good things. Of course Iīd like to fight him and kick his ass real bad but that is just a personal wish not having to do much with anything he said.

                  I thought the fight with Calzaghe wasnīt a real fight if you ask me."

                  Of course I was going to ask. What did you think of Calzaghe-Hopkins?

                  "Both are awkward fighters who like to hold a lot and because of that I donīt think it was a real boxing match. They are both good fighters, Hopkins has his routine, Calzaghe too, but they are both match fighters I would say."

                  I take it you would fight Calzaghe again too right?

                  "Yea thatīs my dream fight if he gave me the rematch. That was my one loss, and Iīm not making an excuse so much as saying the truth about my hand. I hurt it real bad and couldnīt spar well, even one month after the fight. Everything was wrong. Iīve seen a lot of fighters get rematches but he did tell me he wanted to fight me again, and since that is my only loss, of course I want to show him I am a better fighter."

                  http://www.mikkelkessler.com/default.asp?language=enuk#
                  Directly from his beautiful mouth and on his beautiful site. Go see and read for yourself. Pick News on the side, and news again. Read the older articles.

                  This was great fun. I was about to try and find some footage of Mikkel making excuses live on youtube, but I think I have enough evidence to show I was right and you were wrong. Kessler did make excuses after the Calzaghe fight. I make you eat your words. And it's great ! The other idiots who revered your comments here about me now look as ****** as you do. And it's great !
                  Those comments are made long after the fight took place. You'll find no such things in the post-fight interviews. In fact he just praised Joe after the fight which is also what he does on his homepage and is something you leave out because it doesn't fit your agenda.

                  Still I'll give you this: I haven't seen those comments as they are on the english version of his web and I don't really see them as excuses since he gives Joe full credit. So it's rather explanations although the I can see that there's a fine line between excuses and explanations and you cannot in honesty say that Kessler came out of this blaming his loss on the injury when he acknowledges that Joe was the better man which is also what he should. Otherwise he shouldn't have stepped into the ring if he felt that the injury prevented him from performing.

                  Comment

                  • BattlingNelson
                    Mod a Phukka
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 29881
                    • 3,255
                    • 3,200
                    • 286,536

                    #29
                    Originally posted by tourlou82
                    You have a good point. But he still complained about the referee and the headbutts when we all know the headbutt cuts happened late in the fight when Ward was already whooping his ass.
                    The butts happened as early as about round 4 as I recollect. Ward is a dirty fighter (and a suspected roider) and flying headbutts is a big part of his arsenal.

                    Comment

                    • BattlingNelson
                      Mod a Phukka
                      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 29881
                      • 3,255
                      • 3,200
                      • 286,536

                      #30
                      Originally posted by tourlou82
                      Thank you, I really appreciate. It's all about being objective and respectful to the other posters. Learning lesson for your buddy Nelson.
                      Below you show how to handle it with class:

                      Originally posted by tourlou82
                      Exactly my thoughts, but it appears some people judge us with that ****** karma thing. I think it is mostly frustrated and biased people using that thing. By the way, it's strange, Nelson is nowhere to be found now that I've provided evidence that he is a biased idiot.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP