Does anyone here TRULy belive that PAC can beat PBF?

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  • one_two_puncher
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    #51
    Originally posted by Silky-Flow
    Well i'm not too familiar with the other fighters Roger has trained so you'll have to find that info yourself, furthermore has Roger ever ducked a style? he's trained Floyd to fight against boxers with movement, southpaws, brawlers etc but we all know Freddy won't let Pac (or Khan) near slick boxers so doesn't that put a stain on his reputation? and his habbit of picking stationary, left handed brawlers is also a concern too.

    hey buddy. Do you love boxing? or just Floyd Mayweather?. All I can see in your posts are just biased opinions about Mayweather.

    So you say that about Pacquiao, When your boy Mayweather has avoided boxers in his own weight class. What's up with that?

    The Pacquiao camp just wants aggressive fighters because it fits Manny's offensive style so it will be a great boxing match. They want that crowd pleasing kind of match

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    • arraamis
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      #52
      Originally posted by SirAuron
      Because, i mean, come on!

      Answer me this, how does Manny win?

      If Manny was landing shots on Floyd, PBF is fast enough to come forward and tie him up, and Pac would be like a turtle on its back if effective clinches come into the fight.

      If Manny tries to come inside and fight Floyd there, he will quickly find himself getting tied up and smothered, MANNY DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO CLINCH. so Floyd would destroy him if he uses these tactics.

      So Mannys only way to win is to box on the outside and use speed tactics.

      Well that wont work, Floyd is bigger and stronger, and just as fast.

      As manny tries to leap in and fire off his shots, he is going to be getting hammered by the counter right hand off mayweather.

      The same counter right that made Pac **** his pants against Marquez i might add.

      See the worst thing Pac did was pissing floyd off. What he should of done when Floyd asked for a fight is adressed Mayweather like this "Yes Mr Mayweather, sir, it will be an honour to fight you" See had Pac been nice, then Floyd may have spared Pac's wretched hide, and carried him the full 12.

      But, alas Pac was rude, and will pay the price. Here is how the fight will pan out.

      First 2 rounds, Pac flies at floyd, who ties him up and pressures him into the ropes, "no dice" whispers floyd into Pacs ears.

      Next 9 rounds, Pac tries to box floyd, and eats straight right for 9 rounds, getting dropped and bloodied up good.

      Last round, Floyd stops playing and ko's Pac, and his career.
      I honestly don't believe that Pacman would beat Floyd - BUT!!!!

      I wanted to witness it real world ...... And now that the odds are against this happening I am pissed off beyond belief.

      It makes no sense for fans to continuously talk about match-ups that will not happen because of boxing BS and politics.



      SO, RIGHT NOW I AM PISSED AT BOTH FLOYD AND PACMAN, ARUM AND GBP - EVEN THOUGH I'M A FAN OF BOTH PAC AND PBF ..........

      I AM THOROUGHLY PISSED OFF.

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      • Silky-Flow
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        #53
        Originally posted by one_two_puncher
        hey buddy. Do you love boxing? or just Floyd Mayweather?. All I can see in your posts are just biased opinions about Mayweather.

        So you say that about Pacquiao, When your boy Mayweather has avoided boxers in his own weight class. What's up with that?

        The Pacquiao camp just wants aggressive fighters because it fits Manny's offensive style so it will be a great boxing match. They want that crowd pleasing kind of match
        Floyd called out Mosley and Cotto before so the notion that he "avoided them" is nothing but a myth designed to put him down, he may not have fought Margarito but that's nothing compared to Manny ducking a whole style of boxing and never fighting a single African-American boxer since he started fighting in the states. that's embarrassing imo.

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        • tanibanana
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          #54
          this question is why I really wanted this fight to happen..
          I've heard this and that for like 20-plus times.. and very
          few times I was wrong.. and for the nth time.. Manny wins.

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          • MaD RoBoT
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            #55
            Floyd himself doesn't believe that he can beat Pac that's why he tried to disrupt Pac's training routine by these unecessary tests

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              #56
              Originally posted by Silky-Flow
              Well i'm not too familiar with the other fighters Roger has trained so you'll have to find that info yourself, furthermore has Roger ever ducked a style? he's trained Floyd to fight against boxers with movement, southpaws, brawlers etc but we all know Freddy won't let Pac (or Khan) near slick boxers so doesn't that put a stain on his reputation? and his habbit of picking stationary, left handed brawlers is also a concern too.
              Maybe you are not familiar with his other fight because Roger is not that good of a trainer. And, good make them relevant...

              And, Roger does not duck a style? Roger does not have a say about Floyd opponent? He is 4 well now 5 in the totem pole... It goes Floyd, Ellerbe, Haymon and Schafer, then Roger on who Floyd fights... And, for the record Floyd never ever fought a slick boxer. If you really believe Zab, Corley, and that version of Mitchell slick. Then you JMM and Agapito Sanchez was slick. Because they were just as slick them... JMM was a way better counter puncher than those 3 also...

              You can not say Roach is ducking a slick fighter when he really wants Khan to fight Malignaggi...

              Roger is a great mitts guy. Maybe the best in boxing. But, he is just there as a yes man. Floyd pretty much does everything else. He is the one who comes up with the game plan and he is the one who adjusts. Roger has proved that he can not take anybody else to the top...

              While Roach has. Freddie has a long list of champs in his resume not just Pac and Khan....

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              • one_two_puncher
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                #57
                Originally posted by Silky-Flow
                Nice to see a pac fan come forth with a good post for once , as boxing fans all we can go on is the stats, facts and styles of both fighters, and when you look at it that way it all points to a Mayweather victory, of course nothing is 100 percent certain in big fights like this but there's a reason why most of the pro's and boxing fans are leaning towards Floyd in this one, we can't all be wrong.

                So stop all the biased stuff about Mayweather bro.

                Im an all around boxing fan, Floyd is in my top 5 for pure skill

                But you can never say 70/30 if favor or Floyd.

                this is a great match up. If not THE greatest in our lifetime.

                Honestly. sometimes I see Floyd coming out of this one the victorious one, sometimes I see Pacquiao coming out with the win.

                Please all Pac fans and Mayweather fans, love the sport more.

                love the fight more. Not the figthers.

                Pacquiao vs. Mayweather is THE fight people.

                Stop arguing on who is going to win. And just enjoy all this hype building up to the fight.

                if.. of course they get through their respective opponents..

                After all this. Pacquiao-Mayweather later in the year could not be more exciting.

                Peace!

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                • M.I.C.
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                  #58
                  I think Floyd beats Pac 10 out of 10, Pac in my opinion is no match for Floyd. Even Marquez is no match for Floyd.

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                  • Silky-Flow
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    Maybe you are not familiar with his other fight because Roger is not that good of a trainer. And, good make them relevant...

                    And, Roger does not duck a style? Roger does not have a say about Floyd opponent? He is 4 well now 5 in the totem pole... It goes Floyd, Ellerbe, Haymon and Schafer, then Roger on who Floyd fights... And, for the record Floyd never ever fought a slick boxer. If you really believe Zab, Corley, and that version of Mitchell slick. Then you JMM and Agapito Sanchez was slick. Because they were just as slick them... JMM was a way better counter puncher than those 3 also...

                    You can not say Roach is ducking a slick fighter when he really wants Khan to fight Malignaggi...

                    Roger is a great mitts guy. Maybe the best in boxing. But, he is just there as a yes man. Floyd pretty much does everything else. He is the one who comes up with the game plan and he is the one who adjusts. Roger has proved that he can not take anybody else to the top...

                    While Roach has. Freddie has a long list of champs in his resume not just Pac and Khan....
                    We already had that argument about who is "slick" and who isn't and i told you your notion was garbage, your argument was about "who gets knocked down and who doesn" and it was flawed, the bottom line is Zab and Mitchell had that thing called MOVEMENT and with the abilty to punch from angles, that's something Pac has NEVER faced before and continues to duck it to this day, Nate said it himself in his statement today and that's a man who knows more about boxing than you will ever know, secondly all i said was Roger has trained Floyd against every style, while it's well known Freddy plays a huge part on who Pac fights and he seems to be staying away from right handed boxers these days and has never put Pac against a guy with movement, you can stay in denial all you like but those are the facts.

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                    • Toxic
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Silky-Flow
                      We already had that argument about who is "slick" and who isn't and i told you your notion was garbage, your argument was about "who gets knocked down and who doesn" and it was flawed, the bottom line is Zab and Mitchell had that thing called MOVEMENT and with the abilty to punch from angles, that's something Pac has NEVER faced before and continues to duck it to this day, Nate said it himself in his statement today and that's a man who knows more about boxing than you will ever know, secondly all i said was Roger has trained Floyd against every style, while it's well known Freddy plays a huge part on who Pac fights and he seems to be staying away from right handed boxers these days and has never put Pac against a guy with movement, you can stay in denial all you like but those are the facts.

                      Be real to yourself

                      and you'll find your life easier

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