Does anyone here TRULy belive that PAC can beat PBF?

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  • one_two_puncher
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    #61
    Originally posted by Silky-Flow
    Floyd called out Mosley and Cotto before so the notion that he "avoided them" is nothing but a myth designed to put him down, he may not have fought Margarito but that's nothing compared to Manny ducking a whole style of boxing and never fighting a single African-American boxer since he started fighting in the states. that's embarrassing imo.
    I remember Floyd saying he wanted to fight Mosley, but I don't know what happened, Mosley called him out and straight out wanted to fight him, and instead of saying okay I'll fight you. He says don't disrespect me..bla bla bla.

    And when asked about Cotto I think he said because Cotto lived in puerto rico or something?.

    bottomline is. It don't matter what style your fighting, as long as it's exciting it's a great match up and it makes fans happy and the match up is FAIR.


    and what about Ledwaba?. And I don't really get how skin color is a factor in fights.

    so fighting aggressive fighters is more embarrasing than not fighting top boxer's in his own weight class?.

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    • FightFreak
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      #62
      Originally posted by Silky-Flow
      Floyd called out Mosley and Cotto before so the notion that he "avoided them" is nothing but a myth designed to put him down, he may not have fought Margarito but that's nothing compared to Manny ducking a whole style of boxing and never fighting a single African-American boxer since he started fighting in the states. that's embarrassing imo.
      Yeah, Floyd's a toughie. That's why he's fighting an over-the-hill, bloated LW for the second time in a row. You *****s are just pathetic.

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      • Silky-Flow
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        #63
        Originally posted by one_two_puncher
        I remember Floyd saying he wanted to fight Mosley, but I don't know what happened, Mosley called him out and straight out wanted to fight him, and instead of saying okay I'll fight you. He says don't disrespect me..bla bla bla.

        And when asked about Cotto I think he said because Cotto lived in puerto rico or something?.

        bottomline is. It don't matter what style your fighting, as long as it's exciting it's a great match up and it makes fans happy and the match up is FAIR.


        and what about Ledwaba?. And I don't really get how skin color is a factor in fights.

        so fighting aggressive fighters is more embarrasing than not fighting top boxer's in his own weight class?.
        If a man ducks a whole style that means he may have a weakness in his arsenal that's yet to be exposed, i mean what other reason would there be for Manny to duck slick boxers? as for Cotto Floyd wanted to fight him at 140 and Arum declined, and Ledwabe was a stationary African (a little like Clottey) not AFRICAN-AMERICAN, it's two different cultures completely.

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        • badboypeenoy
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          #64
          Originally posted by Silky-Flow
          Well how many fighters has Roger trained? three at most? i'm not sure, but how many fighters haven't lost a fight under Roach's guidence? i mean Khan hasn't lost with him yet but he's only had around three fights, other than him i can't think of many, when you look at Floyd's record it's hard to argue that Roger isn't a good trainer, comparing them is difficult because Roger hasn't trained as many boxers as Freddie has.
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          Roach trained fighter (Bernabe Concepcion) vs. Roger Mayweather trained fighter (Torrence Daniels).

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          • Silky-Flow
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            #65
            Originally posted by FightFreak
            Yeah, Floyd's a toughie. That's why he's fighting an over-the-hill, bloated LW for the second time in a row. You *****s are just pathetic.
            Did you read Nate Campbell's Statement or are you just blind and dumb?

            FLOYD HASN'T SIGNED A CONTRACT TO FIGHT ANYONE YET!!!.

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            • Gopgop
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              #66
              i honestly dont believe manny has anything that can beat mayweather besides manny being a southpaw and mayweather seems to struggle with those...but other than that mayweather by boring UD

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              • one_two_puncher
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                #67
                Originally posted by Silky-Flow
                If a man ducks a whole style that means he may have a weakness in his arsenal that's yet to be exposed, i mean what other reason would there be for Manny to duck slick boxers? as for Cotto Floyd wanted to fight him at 140 and Arum declined, and Ledwabe was a stationary African (a little like Clottey) not AFRICAN-AMERICAN, it's two different cultures completely.

                Still don't make sense why it would make for him to avoid a specific race. Skin or race or culture has nothing to do with boxing, And when did Manny ever duck?. Cotto-Floyd 140? c'mon that's all in favor for Floyd.

                It all says the same why Floyd is avoiding people his own weight, And made JMM go up weight for him. A bloated slowed Marquez was fighting that night.

                I never questioned Floyd's skills. But I always questioned his heart to fight,
                Say **** about Pac all you want but you can never his heart to fight.

                And that's why he wanted to fight Mayweather in the first place. Because he proved he can beat solid straight up fighters. It's time for him to face his biggest challenge, Mayweather.

                and again. People let's just stop arguing about the fighters. And love the fact that the biggest fight of our generation will happen eventually

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                • pasawayako
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                  #68
                  i gave floyd 30-70 in favor of pac, i couldn't see anything that floyd could do to win against pac.

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                  • tanibanana
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                    #69
                    Zab did hurt Floyd once..
                    Castillo gave him a tough night..
                    Dela Hoya almost beat him..

                    I can NOT see Floyd winning this fight..
                    IF ever it will happen.

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                    • MindBat
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                      #70
                      Lets end this thread right here.

                      Arum, Roach, Team Pacquiao AND Manny himself know they can't beat Floyd.

                      They can talk all they want about him being a runner and a boring fighter, but
                      that's all they can say.

                      Case in point: Freddie Roach claims Floyd would be easier to beat than Cotto and Shane.

                      Next few weeks, Freddie claims Floyd is a different type of fighter, and they need more time to prepare Manny for him.

                      FACT: There are no sparring partners that can match Floyd's style and ring IQ.

                      FACT: Freddie tried to prepare an healthy and fit Oscar against Floyd AND
                      they had Shane Mosley help out in sparring.

                      FACT: Oscar asked for and got all the advantages he thought he needed to beat Floyd at 154lbs.

                      RESULT: Oscar loses his 154lb WBC Jr Middle Weight title in the highest grossing fight in the history of the sport.

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