Blame Manny for torpedoing fight with Floyd mayweather

[pistol whip]

Bottomline...14 days was on the table...Everyone including you cannot say this wasn't fair...Ask yourself the question regarding the 14 days and I BET you can only come up with excuses...Because there aren't any logical reasons to pass up on a 40 million plus payday and cementing your legacy as an alltime great, for the reasons he did.

It is starting to look like Arum has truly mastered the ability to control what his fighters fans think, regardlessw of what he says. He lies and you blindly follow. I'm obviously generalizing because some fans have shown the ability to not regurgitate evrything that has been spoon fed to them.

Again, every poll that both you and I've seen has stated that 14 days was more than fair. Not a single poll shows that it wasn't fair...I'm only talking about the 14 days only because it was the final proposal on the table before the Clottey fight was made.

You can come up with other excuses and call floyd names but you cannot say that PBF did not want to fight PAC...Because PBF agreed to everything and when I say everything...he did not hold up negotiations because he disagreed with ANY of PAC's demands...but PBF ducked???

PAC is always going to be associated with not taking the same random blood tests that both Holyfield and A. Abraham took...

Holyfield quote..."He (Tyson) thought I was on steroids, so he wanted me to take steroid tests (Random Blood Tests), I wasn't worried about anything because I new i was CLEAN"

It's like a broken record...He's definetly SUSPECT not guilty!

I've said this before...and I'll say it again...PBF and PAC are about RISK/REWARD

Pac could have fought Nate Campbell or Cassamayor when he had his choices at 135 but he chose to fight the easier of the three...Where were all the critics when he chose the lowest RISK HIGHEST REWARD opponent in Diaz???
Let me be crystal clear ...He did not choose Diaz because he was scared of the other opponents...he, again, chose Diaz because he offered the lowest risk highest highest reward!!!

...And check out Arum's latest actions and I bet many of you did not notice that every fighter that Pac was ACTUALLY, NOT RUMORED TO FIGHT, is in Arum's stable...Why because it pads his pockets...He's selling the Clottey fight as if Pac is really challenging himself??? Pac just beat the dog snot out of the fighter who just beat Clottey with one eye??? - or in the very least fought him to a draw -with one eye, none the less...

Finally, I don't like the PBF choice of Nate Campbell, as it does nothing for his legacy... but just like Pac, this offers a low risk high reward and if you add this with any of those other fights not including Pac he still generates over 20million...

We're all being played because they don't give a damn who we want to see as they only care about the money.

You left out the part where the testing wasn't used as a smear campaign against Abraham and Holyfield. You left out where they were asked professionally and wern't labeled Steroid abusers at anytime during the run up to their fights.

Funny what you can get people to do when you ask nicely and not like an insecure child.

[Modobo3]

You know why the testing demand is bullcrap in the first place?

It's because Mr. Schaeffer himself didn't want Shane to undergo testing outside what the NSAC does. That alone you can question the sincerity of this testing. The article is bias, you know why? because for one he didn't state that NSAC is greater than Floyd's camp so naturally Pacman's camp has the right to refuse especially if the testing is done due to some wild accusation.

Some posters here put a link on Roach 5 day window but he probably has not consulted Manny during that time and Manny in the first place never wanted any test that includes injection near the fight as hinted by his 2005 interview.

The two camps are to blame for the fight not happening but I blame it more on the Mayweather's camp suddenly demanding a drug test.

Suddenly??? it was in the first proposal along with the 10million dollar offer and you didn't think the 14 days out was more than fair. Finally, was PBF accusing himself by agreeing to the same tests???

I don't think Pac is guilty just very suspect!!!

[Modobo3]

You left out the part where the testing wasn't used as a smear campaign against Abraham and Holyfield. You left out where they were asked professionally and wern't labeled Steroid abusers at anytime during the run up to their fights.

Funny what you can get people to do when you ask nicely and not like an insecure child.

Really, is that what you really believe???

Did you read the holyfield quote??? They accused him of Steroid use!!! Straight up ACCUSED him! He was like cool, I'll take your ****in test, pass them and whoop your ass...He didn't flinch!

Come on Pistol Whip, I'm not trying to turn you on Pac but I am trying to get you to see he went for the easy money!

[MindBat]

Great article and he projected what anyone who isnt far off Pacqauio's a** feels about how and why the fight collapse, In years to come when people ask why the fight didnt happen only one reason would be give "Pacquiao refuse randon drug testing"

That is what the public will ultimately conclude.

More double standards!

I like how the writer says Shane Mosely never tested positive for steroids but failed to mention that he testified to a federal jury that he did take PED's and he was also accused by members of Balco of knowingly taking PED.

Manny was accused by Crackhead Sr.........
THIS IS NOT THE SAME THING!

The point he was making and what Pac fans choose to ignore is that Shane passed all of the tests the commission required him to undergo.

He was found to be clean -- aka -- not guilty by the commission until he was forced to go on record and admit that he was on drugs for the Oscar fight.

And yes testing for EPO was being conducted at the time he fought.

[badboypeenoy]

In the end, Pac is going to make his millions fighting Clottey on MARCH 13 while Floyd's somewhere wishing it was him making the 30mil on the same day... the realization that he cannot get a good payday anywhere else is starting to set in.

[$partacus]

In the end, Pac is going to make his millions fighting Clottey on MARCH 13 while Floyd's somewhere wishing it was him making the 30mil on the same day... the realization that he cannot get a good payday anywhere else is starting to set in.

You're an idiot, Mayweather will get a big payday whoever he fights and he's a bigger draw than Manny.

[badboypeenoy]

You're an idiot, Mayweather will get a big payday whoever he fights and he's a bigger draw than Manny.

The PPV with Marquez is a fluke because everyone wants to see his first fight back from retirement...plus the fact that Marquez got Mexican support. Doubt if he gets half of that fighting Malignaggi or Campbell.

Its starting to set in... Without a bankable dance partner, Mayweather can't draw flies.

[$partacus]

The PPV with Marquez is a fluke because everyone wants to see his first fight back from retirement...plus the fact that Marquez got Mexican support. Doubt if he gets half of that fighting Malignaggi or Campbell.

Its starting to set in... Without a bankable dance partner, Mayweather can't draw flies.

Mayweather had more PPV buys than Pac did against the same opponents. Fact.

[badboypeenoy]

Mayweather had more PPV buys than Pac did against the same opponents. Fact.

OK, so give me a fighter he'll agree to fight that would give him 1mil PPV aside from Pacquiao.

[$partacus]

OK, so give me a fighter he'll agree to fight that would give him 1mil PPV aside from Pacquiao.

Same can be asked about Pacquiao. The Clottey fight won't sell 1 mil.