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Not limited at all Sir, i am open to every viewpoint and thats why i can't understand how people can think that their shouldn't be reasonable su****ion with Pac. I am basing my views on reasonable su****ion from performances like i did with the other athletes in other sports who at the time i felt they were using enhancers and people said the same to me then as you are now. Those same reasonable su****ions that i had are all proving to be true now years later. I never once claimed that what i am saying is fact or law. Just reasonable su****ion which hasn't failed me yet.
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Not limited at all Sir, i am open to every viewpoint and thats why i can't understand how people can think that their shouldn't be reasonable su****ion with Pac. I am basing my views on reasonable su****ion from performances like i did with the other athletes in other sports who at the time i felt they were using enhancers and people said the same to me then as you are now. Those same reasonable su****ions that i had are all proving to be true now years later. I never once claimed that what i am saying is fact or law. Just reasonable su****ion which hasn't failed me yet. -
I'm not against RANDOM BLOOD TEST, Pac REFUSE whatever Mayweathers will say particularly in drug test. Pac was accused as RIOD user even before he fought Cotto. There's a MALICIOUS intent on the part of the Mayweathers and it's really obvious. It's WITCH HUNTING. I can't blame Pac over that but I would like him to undergone random blood testing as per NSACs terms not on any boxers terms. And ALL, I mean EVERY SINGLE BOXER should undergo these tests NOT SINGLING OUT 1 boxer.Comment
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C'mon bruh, show me the face of a liar, and tell me they look like a liar...That's some ****** logic right there...
So doe Martha Stewart look like the kind of girl who would cheat investors out of Millions...
Does Madoff, look like he would mug you in an alley...
What about McGuire...he surely has the face of a liar...Comment
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December 11:
Freddie Roach:"I have no problem with the testing whatsoever. They can do whatever (Keyword: Whatever) kind of drug testing that they want".
December 14:
Alex Ariza: I am the one in charge, I am the one responsible for what Manny takes. He has no idea what he takes.
December 22:
Early today Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, was contacted by Top Rank President Todd duBoef, who informed Schaefer that Pacquiao would not agree to have his blood taken within 30-days of the bout based on the fighter’s superstition of testing so close to a fight.
Richard Schaefer: "Todd told me that Pacquiao has difficulty with taking blood and doesn’t want to do it so close to the fight. He, Pacquiao, would only agree to have blood drawn before the kick-off press conference and after the fight".
In that same day,
Freddie Roach: A urine test is just as qualified as a blood test. [Human growth hormone] is not detected by blood or urine.”
How is HGH test done?
More than one blood sample must be taken on different days, due to rapid changing levels of growth hormone. A test measuring IGF-1 levels may be taken in conjunction, as its levels change much slower. Before blood is drawn, the administering health professional should be informed of any disorders or medication being taken which can lead to bleeding at the site of the puncture.
December 23:
Bob Arum: "Manny says that taking blood from him really weakens him. And he doesn't want to do it when he's in training, but he'll do it prior to going into training, and after the fight. Every major doctor will tell you that blood testing shows absolutely nothing".
Freddie Roach: "For the record, Pacquiao (Remember, he said Pacquiao) is willing to have his blood drawn before he starts training and after the fight to be tested for steroids and performance enhancing drugs. It’s not like Pacquiao is saying no to drugs".
December 24:
Arum: "This kid has a phobia for getting his blood drawn."
December 25:
Manny Pacquiao plans to sue Floyd Mayweather, the American's father and Golden Boy Promotions in the next few days following a row over doping procedures, the Filipino world champion said in a statement on Friday.
NYDailyNews. Tim Smith,
This isn't some issue that just came about. It has been a part of the contract negotiations for weeks. According to a source familiar with the talks, Pacquiao's representatives asked what penalties Pacquiao would face if he tested dirty, and also if a dirty test result could be kept secret so that the integrity of the fight wouldn't be ruined in the public eye.
December 26:
Manny Pacquiao: "I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the Press Release. I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room. I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight. The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight".
December 28
Manny Pacquiao: I do not have anything to prove (to them) and hopefully, they would not succeed in destroying my image and the sport of boxing in the way they want it done. They want to dictate and step on the authority of the organizations including the Nevada State Athletic Commission. I am not guilty and I don’t have to prove anything because I have passed all tests in all my previous fights. I will all just see you in court.
December 30:
David Tyler interviews Freddie Roach.
Freddie Roach: HGH cannot be detected by blood, saliva, or urine. The doctors I've talked to said that HGH and any growth harmone cannot be detected by any test.
David Tyler: Fred, I have a graduate's degree in Biochemistry and 30 years experience in developing blood chemistry tests.....I'll leave it alone, let's move foward.
Freddie Roach: No wait, you can't tell me that there is a test that can detect HGH or growth harmones.
David Tyler: Fred, I'm not here to make you mad.
Freddie Roach: I'm not mad, I'm telling you that you are wrong if you think there is a test for HGH.
David Tyler: Ok Fred, so you are saying that HGH cannot be detected by a blood test?
Freddie Roach: Absolutely, 100%, NO! Saliva, blood, or urine.
So, I guess this was all Floyd Sr.'s fault right? I think not.
Men Lie, Women Lie, Quotations don't.
The Mayweather fight is the fight the world wants to see,” Roach said. “It’s going to be the biggest pay-per-view fight of all time. But I think we will fight one fight before that.”
Roach said that Pacquiao’s schedule will be constructed around his political ambitions and the elections in the Philippines on May 10. “But there is a March date for him to fight,” Roach said. “People think I am crazy but I want him to win his eighth title against Yuri Foreman at 154lb. That’s my idea — then fight Mayweather in September. And then retire.”
The way Roach sees it, there will be no further blemishes on Pacquiao’s record by the time he greets retirement, although he does concede that Mayweather will be “the hardest fight of his life”.
“Mayweather’s a very difficult fight for Manny,” he said. “It won’t be physically the hardest, but it will be the hardest fight of his life style-wise. Mayweather is talented and he’s good at defence. I have a very good game plan for him, but I’m sure a lot of other guys thought that along the way.
"If they give me a 5-day window or something like that I have no problem with it," Roach said. "When they've drawn blood from Manny in the past he feels weaker for three or four days. It may be mental, but it's there."
“Maybe Manny won’t calm down after all this character assassination done by Golden Boy,” Arum said.
“Then I guess the solution is to move on and push the big fight into the fall.”Comment
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No, I don't. I think he's letting his ego and pride get in the way of making this fight.Comment
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Its not witch hunting to have an opinion and su****ion. Its not witch hunting to make a request in a negotiation to ensure that BOTH boxers are randomly tested and within the 30 days leading up to the fight. If Mayweather had said that Manny is the only one of the two of them to have to be randomly tested in that 30 days then you would have a point. I agree with you that every boxer should go through with it but until its implemented these two had the opportunity to do this on the biggest stage boxing has ever seen. What better way to show case boxing to the world and solidify it as the number 1 combat sport in the wake of the steroid era.Last edited by Championart; 01-12-2010, 06:59 PM.Comment
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Honestly, i dont really like people accusing me of something, its kindda insult for me... in pac case floyds camp accused him taking roids or something...
for example, would u take aids test just because i accuse u have aids? come on, u must have some dignity ...
well if i am pac....i just leave floyd and proceed with clottey fight... during that fight i take the random olympic test just to piss off floyd...hahaha
dont get me wrong... i a big fan both of them...floyd has the skills to win this fight...and pac is full of surprises...Comment
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May Sr. accused Pac, and SU****ION <> ACCUSATION.
My personal opinion why this fight didn't worked out, is that the promoters wanted more time to promote the fight. The more time to promote, the more hype the more people will be interested even a NON-BOXING fans will probably jump to the bandwagon, thus, will generate more PPVs and sold out arena. MORE money for TR, GBP, Pac & Floyd...
I kinda thinking that these guys have mutual understanding of doing this and later on proceed with fight. But I'm really not sure it's just a hunch, the fact that how boxing promoters making too much money out of the boxers, specially those PPV materials.Comment
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