The quality of opposition Leonard fought was far superior. Floyd is one of the most skilled fighters ever but that's exactly when it gets frustrating because we can't measure his greatness based on his resume.
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Originally posted by Allucard View PostThat's what i meant, i mean seeing both inside the ring i jumped to that conclusion... Of course Leonard had Duran, Hagler and Hearns around.. Foyd had Oscar, Hatton, Marquez and earlier Corrales but i recon those guys aren't anything like Hagler, Hearns and Duran, specially Hagler who was a great fighter on his own. Still in boxing ability i think Floyd is pretty accurate when he says he's the greatest. Hoya is pretty close to Hagler though.
He made Hatton move up solid win tho, Marquez go BLOATED NOT A good win to me. Oscar win was good but it was boring.
a Past prime Hoya is no Hagler. LOL Floyd has boxing abilities and probably is the most natural boxer of his era but that doesn't mean **** when you dont fight the other Great fighters of your weight.
Leonard Was the most natural boxer of his era and we know how great he is because he fought the other greats Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Wilfred, etc.d
I bet if Leonard fought the welterweights Floyd fought in his prime *Judah, Baldimor, Hatton, Marquez(NOT A WW), and Mitchell he would DESTROY them all. Floyd dominated them by the scorecards but didn't give a Beating to them. Leonard would give them a beating, dominate and destroy them at the same time. Just my 2 cents.
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BS comments from some posters..you cant compare them off of their resumes
how can you..have we had a "Hearns/Duran/Hagler" of our generation?.I think not..have we had a SRL of our generation?..yes. PBF. and lets be 100% real..even if Floyd fought Pacquiao/Margarito/Cotto..ect..it will never compare to SRL's resume because that was a different time..with different fighters..
you have to judge them on their skill alone..& they are very similar..if they werent they wouldnt get compared to by experts/analyst so much..but if they fought..it would be a toss-up and would go to the scorecards..
late 70s/80s had SRL
90s had PW
00's and on..has PBF
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Originally posted by mali1976 View PostBS comments from some posters..you cant compare them off of their resumes
how can you..have we had a "Hearns/Duran/Hagler" of our generation?.I think not..have we had a SRL of our generation?..yes. PBF. and lets be 100% real..even if Floyd fought Pacquiao/Margarito/Cotto..ect..it will never compare to SRL's resume because that was a different time..with different fighters..
you have to judge them on their skill alone..& they are very similar..if they werent they wouldnt get compared to by experts/analyst so much..but if they fought..it would be a toss-up and would go to the scorecards..
late 70s/80s had SRL
90s had PW
00's and on..has PBF
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[QUOTE=Adrian 28;7244285]Bro Leonard is greater.
But Floyd is literally a perfect fighter. Hate him all you want. He is the most skilled, talented and gifted fighter to ever box.
PERIOD.[/QUOTE
FLOYD PERFECT???? WHAT???
YOU'RE MAKING ME HAHAHAHAHA......HAHAHAHAA...
Let him wait the result of mosley and berto, if he will, I don't think so... wht he can't afford to face the two fighter like the way he can't afford to face pacman.
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Originally posted by Allucard View PostLet me tell you, this guy is good but he has nothing on Floyd Mayweather Jr, nothing. Floyd is incredibly good, even when compared with Leonard. Speed, accuracy and tatics, Floyd is incredibly good all around. When he's gone people will start to notice that when 10 years go by and no one like him comes along.
look at his fights against Jose Luis Castillo, Oscar Dela Hoya..
Sugar Ray Robinson would outbox & out muscle Oscar Dela Hoya
if they fight prime for prime; which by the way was not the
case when Floyd meet the Golden Boy.
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Originally posted by dde91 View PostMan Floyd had chances to fight Pacquiao, Miguel Cotto, Antionio Margarito, Shane Mosley, Tszyu, when they were top dogs but he didn't.
He made Hatton move up solid win tho, Marquez go BLOATED NOT A good win to me. Oscar win was good but it was boring.
a Past prime Hoya is no Hagler. LOL Floyd has boxing abilities and probably is the most natural boxer of his era but that doesn't mean **** when you dont fight the other Great fighters of your weight.
Leonard Was the most natural boxer of his era and we know how great he is because he fought the other greats Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Wilfred, etc.d
I bet if Leonard fought the welterweights Floyd fought in his prime *Judah, Baldimor, Hatton, Marquez(NOT A WW), and Mitchell he would DESTROY them all. Floyd dominated them by the scorecards but didn't give a Beating to them. Leonard would give them a beating, dominate and destroy them at the same time. Just my 2 cents.
So why woudln't Baldimor be able to last 12 rounds. Vernon Forrest hit him with the kitchen sink and still couldn't knock him out. Ray beats him probably 12 rounds to 0 but that's the same as Floyd. When did Ray ever fight a southpaw with speed? Zan Judah i think gives him problems early and he eventually starts to attack Judah on the inside and most likely stops him 9th or 10th round. But it wouldn't be a 3 round destruction. Ray had problems with Ayub Kalule southpaw style and he's slower than Baldomir.
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Originally posted by Adrian 28 View PostWhat do you consider to be Floyds flaw???
He has NONE.
I kno you know ur stuff so your response should be interesting.
But Ive seen them all....SRR( the little footage that exists of him past it but still)....SRL....Duran...Ali...Sweet Pea...
Bro a Floyd Mayweather jr. will NEVER come around again.
hahahahahah Floyd is not the greatest thing ever man you are nuts. Floyds flaws okay:
Doesn't hit hard enough. Has brittle hands and back problems. Coasts to decision the majority of the time. pitty pat floyd. He is a point fighter. And Floyd has never been hurt because he hasn't been hit by a big enough puncher and will NEVER trade because he is scared to get hit.
Floyd has great defense. Yes. But you act like he is some crazy offensive force also and he isnt
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