A Boxer's Resume

[Andrew Cuff V2]

I watched Hopkins vs Mercado I&II earlier and it got me thinking about resumes. Back in the day, a win over "a Mercado" would have been seen as good; the highest ranking contender, solid fighter - excellent. Nowadays, people only rate the wins against elite competition that will stand up to scrutiny after a period of time, e.g.

The Calzaghe win over Lacy and the Mayweather win over Baldomir. At the time they were both lauded as opponents, now they're widely discredited.

Has the average fan descended so far? It appears every win is now examined far more than beforehand and merely "good" wins are quickly dismissed if the opponent is not at least a HOFer.

Thoughts?

[hammerhiem]

I agree in principle, however Baldomir is not a good example, Judah would have been a better example.

If you want to see a fighter who truely suffers from this syndrome and the associated "if you lose you're a bum" look at Ricky Hatton.

[Andrew Cuff V2]

I agree in principle, however Baldomir is not a good example, Judah would have been a better example.

If you want to see a fighter who truely suffers from this syndrome and the associated "if you lose you're a bum" look at Ricky Hatton.

True. Malignaggi is another. I picked Baldomir because he held the lineal crown. I have discredited him myself as an "average" win.

[-EX-]

Well in the end all fighters will face this scrutiny really...

Your remembered for your best wins...

When people look bad there not gonna be impressed by Baldomir's resume...or recognize more than a name or 2 on Mercado's resume...

[Andrew Cuff V2]

Well in the end all fighters will face this scrutiny really...

Your remembered for your best wins...

When people look bad there not gonna be impressed by Baldomir's resume...or recognize more than a name or 2 on Mercado's resume...

Exactly my point. Mercado was a good fighter and should be counted as a good win. There is more to a fighters resume than "the best win".

I swear, if Robinson was alive today he'd be derided for fighting a "one-dimensional" LaMotta 6 times and would have been "exposed" after his one loss to him!

[B u r n e r]

Lets see what Cintron, Margarito, Paul Williams and Ishe Smith think about May-Baldi

"It's really hard, I keep changing my mind back and forth on who's going to win this fight," said new IBF champ Kermit Cintron, who won his title (which Mayweather had vacated) with a fifth-round TKO victory over Mark Suarez on Saturday.



"To me, it's a toss-up," said Paul Williams, the undefeated WBO No. 1 contender, who will be fighting Mario Lucero on the undercard on Saturday, in what he hopes will be a final tune-up before challenging Antonio Margarito for that version of the title.



"The only two threats I see at 147 pounds are Mayweather and Baldomir," Margarito recently told ESPN.com over brunch in Las Vegas. He will have, he said, a rooting interest Saturday night.

"Floyd obviously has more talent, but a lot of people thought Gatti was going to walk right through Baldomir, and with Zab, people thought, 'Oh, it's just a tune-up for Zab,' but neither was the case," observed welterweight and junior middleweight contender Ishe Smith, whose promoters, Golden Boy Promotions, earlier this year offered him as a challenger to both Baldomir and Margarito.

"Baldomir comes down from 180-something pounds, and he can take a punch," Smith continued. "He's proven that he can fight elite fighters. He's going to be on Floyd. This fight, we're going to see if Floyd's going to be a welterweight. Floyd's not a big guy, he's not big at all,"

"As the fight gets gritty, toward the later rounds, the championship rounds, I'd have to lean toward the bigger guy [Baldomir]."
-- Welterweight and junior middleweight contender Ishe Smith


"To be honest, I think it could be some trouble for Floyd, to come into a fight like this without a coach," Smith said. "With all that happening, and no one in your corner except Leonard -- no disrespect to Leonard, but he's more of a strength guy or a guy that makes sure your camp is running smoothly. I don't think he can take on the role of being Floyd's coach. I know Floyd is a great fighter and he doesn't really need nobody, but you need that motivation in your ear, telling you what to do and to get you right. I just think it's a bad time for this to happen, and I don't know how well he's going to perform under these circumstances."



"Mayweather should be the favorite," Margarito said, "but Baldomir's a dangerous fighter. We'll see."

"It's a good fight," Williams said. "They're calling it 'Pretty Risky.' To me, it's a toss-up. It don't matter who you're in the ring with, it only takes one punch to change the whole night around."

"Like I said, it's a pick 'em," added Smith, although he marginally favors the underdog. "As the fight gets gritty, toward the later rounds, the championship rounds, I'd have to lean toward the bigger guy."

[Chups]

It happens to every elite boxer, anybody who didn't make it to the HOF will be heralded as weak competition. It has to be at least a Champion or an Ex-champ for it to be recognized a little.........and a HOF to be affirmed.

[Andrew Cuff V2]

It happens to every elite boxer, anybody who didn't make it to the HOF will be heralded as weak competition. It has to be at least a Champion or an Ex-champ for it to be recognized a little.........and a HOF to be affirmed.

Nah, if it's an ex-champ they're past prime! LOL.

[B u r n e r]

Lets see what Cintron, Margarito, Paul Williams and Ishe Smith think about May-Baldi

"It's really hard, I keep changing my mind back and forth on who's going to win this fight," said new IBF champ Kermit Cintron, who won his title (which Mayweather had vacated) with a fifth-round TKO victory over Mark Suarez on Saturday.



"To me, it's a toss-up," said Paul Williams, the undefeated WBO No. 1 contender, who will be fighting Mario Lucero on the undercard on Saturday, in what he hopes will be a final tune-up before challenging Antonio Margarito for that version of the title.



"The only two threats I see at 147 pounds are Mayweather and Baldomir," Margarito recently told ESPN.com over brunch in Las Vegas. He will have, he said, a rooting interest Saturday night.

"Floyd obviously has more talent, but a lot of people thought Gatti was going to walk right through Baldomir, and with Zab, people thought, 'Oh, it's just a tune-up for Zab,' but neither was the case," observed welterweight and junior middleweight contender Ishe Smith, whose promoters, Golden Boy Promotions, earlier this year offered him as a challenger to both Baldomir and Margarito.

"Baldomir comes down from 180-something pounds, and he can take a punch," Smith continued. "He's proven that he can fight elite fighters. He's going to be on Floyd. This fight, we're going to see if Floyd's going to be a welterweight. Floyd's not a big guy, he's not big at all,"

"As the fight gets gritty, toward the later rounds, the championship rounds, I'd have to lean toward the bigger guy [Baldomir]."
-- Welterweight and junior middleweight contender Ishe Smith


"To be honest, I think it could be some trouble for Floyd, to come into a fight like this without a coach," Smith said. "With all that happening, and no one in your corner except Leonard -- no disrespect to Leonard, but he's more of a strength guy or a guy that makes sure your camp is running smoothly. I don't think he can take on the role of being Floyd's coach. I know Floyd is a great fighter and he doesn't really need nobody, but you need that motivation in your ear, telling you what to do and to get you right. I just think it's a bad time for this to happen, and I don't know how well he's going to perform under these circumstances."



"Mayweather should be the favorite," Margarito said, "but Baldomir's a dangerous fighter. We'll see."

"It's a good fight," Williams said. "They're calling it 'Pretty Risky.' To me, it's a toss-up. It don't matter who you're in the ring with, it only takes one punch to change the whole night around."

"Like I said, it's a pick 'em," added Smith, although he marginally favors the underdog. "As the fight gets gritty, toward the later rounds, the championship rounds, I'd have to lean toward the bigger guy."

Nah, if it's an ex-champ they're past prime! LOL.

Just for you...........

[Andrew Cuff V2]

Just for you...........

Haha! That is why I picked Baldomir as an example, many people (myself included) disregard that win. I wonder if was the same back in the day?