Why dosent Pac just take a test and end all the speculations?

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  • LiLNipsFatal
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    #61
    Originally posted by Chups
    Because his dad says so? What are the basis for this accusation.
    And if Pacquiao thinks he's clean, is that not a good reason why he refuses to go further to what May exactly wanted it? (Remember that he agreed to it to a point)
    I was just answering your question, but I'll go ahead and give you one possible reason to suspect Pacquaio. He currently holds the record for 7 titles in 7 different different weight classes, and he's done it by rising through the ranks and knocking out big welterweights (De La Hoya & Cotto). That doesn't necessarily mean he's cheating, but it raises eyebrows. Why do you think people started wondering about Barry Bonds? Why do people constantly question Lance Armstrong? When you completely dominate a sport, people are going to wonder. I don't see why that's so hard to understand. I'm not personally accusing Pacquaio and honestly don't think Pacquiao would cheat if he were in full control of what was going into his body during training, but I don't completely trust his corner.

    Roach has admitted that Pacquaio doesn't even know what supplements they're giving him. We're living in the a new age where athletes in a variety of sports (track & field, cycling, baseball, football, etc.) have been busted for all sorts of PED's and steroids. I don't think it's that crazy to suspect that he might be taking something to enhance his performance. I also wouldn't be completely shocked if he was 100% clean as well.

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    • Hijo de Dios
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      #62
      Originally posted by toyi
      Good post…but just because he's kicking ass doesn't means he's taking PED. I think the existing rules and regulations are more than enough to determine if a fighter is cheating or not.

      It’s the boxing commission job to determine if the existing testing procedures need to be updated and/or modified and not by the boxer’s su****ions.

      I vouch for the boxing commission knowledge about testing procedures than the so-called accusers.
      No, it's not. It is the fighter's job to protect his own interests. in every possible way. inside and outside of the ring. not the commission. not the promoter. not the manager. not the trainer.

      At the end of the day, there is only one guy who will be facing another man in the ring.

      Organizations evolve slowly. especially governmental en******.

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      • LiLNipsFatal
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        #63
        Originally posted by toyi
        Really? Is pacquiao ever tested positive of any illegal drugs in his system?

        I think Mayweather is just scared of getting kick in the ass by an asian midget. He needs to man up and fight Pacquiao using the existing rules and regulations mandated by the boxing commission.
        No, he hasn't. But I can just as easily ask you a question in return. Can you guarantee me that's he clean? Maybe he is, maybe he isn't but we're definitely not going to find out if he's unwilling to take the tests to prove his innocence.

        As for your second point, you're entitled to your own opinion but just because there are existing rules doesn't mean that they're the best rules. Boxing is way BEHIND the curve when it comes to testing for PED's...

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          #64



          Ben Stiller is right.

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          • Hijo de Dios
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            #65
            Originally posted by LiLNipsFatal
            Why do you think people started wondering about Barry Bonds?
            If barry bonds said "test me randomly", and followed through with it, don't you think that would significantly reduce the su****ion and speculation and rumours?

            Tell me what the DOWNSIDE would be for Pac to take random blood tests up to a week before the fight. HOW WOULD THAT HURT HIM?

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            • djtmal
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              #66
              Originally posted by LiLNipsFatal
              I was just answering your question, but I'll go ahead and give you one possible reason to suspect Pacquaio. He currently holds the record for 7 titles in 7 different different weight classes, and he's done it by rising through the ranks and knocking out big welterweights (De La Hoya & Cotto). That doesn't necessarily mean he's cheating, but it raises eyebrows. Why do you think people started wondering about Barry Bonds? Why do people constantly question Lance Armstrong? When you completely dominate a sport, people are going to wonder. I don't see why that's so hard to understand. I'm not personally accusing Pacquaio and honestly don't think Pacquiao would cheat if he were in full control of what was going into his body during training, but I don't completely trust his corner.

              Roach has admitted that Pacquaio doesn't even know what supplements they're giving him. We're living in the a new age where athletes in a variety of sports (track & field, cycling, baseball, football, etc.) have been busted for all sorts of PED's and steroids. I don't think it's that crazy to suspect that he might be taking something to enhance his performance. I also wouldn't be completely shocked if he was 100% clean as well.

              you know i can kinda ride with this, but then i think of how when i first saw pacquaio, he was a one-dimensional slugger more or less with just the straight left hand and no defense...then i saw how he's developed into more of a boxer-puncher who darts in and out, uses both hands, and drastically improved his defense, and i realize that roids can't help you out there....honestly reminds me of a little hagler...floyd is just scared of being ko'd thats all

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                #67
                Originally posted by Hijo de Dios
                I think Horus made a couple of great points.

                If you got to the airport, and they told you to take off your shoes, and you said "I will take off my left shoe. But I will leave my right shoe on. You can check my left shoe all you want, but you can not check my right shoe", what would people think?

                If you applied for a job, and the Hiring Manager asked you to take a drug test on the 8th, but you said, "not on the 8th. I will take the test on the 23rd", what would people think?
                Only one flaw to that argument. Those tests are REQUIREMENTS.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by djtmal
                  you know i can kinda ride with this, but then i think of how when i first saw pacquaio, he was a one-dimensional slugger more or less with just the straight left hand and no defense...then i saw how he's developed into more of a boxer-puncher who darts in and out, uses both hands, and drastically improved his defense, and i realize that roids can't help you out there....honestly reminds me of a little hagler...floyd is just scared of being ko'd thats all
                  The best thing to do with PEDs is try not to guess based on visuals.

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                  • el malo
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Kalion
                    I cant think of reason why not, Discuss.
                    yeah me neither, hopefully oj pacquiao comes to his senses.

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                      #70
                      Why would they had a problem with it when they were perfectly okay about it at first? Roach said it himself.

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