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  • Talisayen
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    #71
    ohhh syet, i hope the mayweathers' have enough money to maintain their lifestyle after Pacquiao wins the lawsuit.



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      #72
      Originally posted by King22
      Why? Its legal in Nevada
      That's the reason why Schaefer refused to come in Dallas,
      Floyd, you're Guilty!!!!!

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      • CoolDad
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        #73
        CoolDad first post

        I'm a pac fan. I followed his fights since he was known as Kid Kulafu.

        The article is just a PR stunt trying to get the sympathy of the jury.

        Let get down to business and deal with facts. Also, lets not deal with the issue of blood testing. Let's deal with the concerns regarding the issue. Mayweather is concern that Pacquiao is on something that would make the fight "unfair". Forget about the contradictions about what the Mayweathers said about Pacquiao will be beaten silly by Floyd Jr, Pacquiao is no match for Floyd Jr or Pacquiao is one-dimensioned fighter. Remember: "Fish ain't caught by the tail - Fish are caught by their big mouths". Let's get down to what the root cause of the matter is.

        STATEMENT: Mayweather is concern that Pacquiao is on something that would make the fight "unfair".

        1. Pacman didn't just want a blood test 30 or 24 days before the fight, he also agreed to a blood test immediately right after the fight. Mayweather fanatics would turn a blind eye and try not to deal with this fact. ANY PED, chemicals or medications that should be found with a blood test right before the fight would ALSO be found in the blood test immediately after the fight. Don't argue with me about this fact, even if i post my credentials, close-minded persons would always "know" better. Ask any independent biochemical experts

        2. It had been explain to floyd by independent scientific experts that PED's or any suspected banned substance would stay in the system for at least 40 days. So, a 30-24 day before the fight and immediately right after window, is enough to determine that Floyd Jrs concern are well-noted but is not well-grounded.

        3. Despite assurances, experts opinion and scientific evidences to allay Floyd's concern about banned substances, Floyd Jr still didn't want to fight. Even with the 14 day window offered by Floyd Jr., it makes no difference if its done 30 days before and immediately after.

        4. Let's forget for an instance that Pacquiao is extremely supertitious to not agree to the fight if blood was drawn immediately before the fight. Let's think about this as a matter of fact. Nevada Boxing Commission does not require a blood test. Floyd demanded random blood testing. Pacquiao already COMPROMISED to a 30-24day and immediately right after the fight blood test. What is there to compromise for in the 14 day before period? Re-read Bullet point #1, #2 and #3.

        5. If Pacquiao wants the fight, why haven't Pacquiao just do the "cavalier" thing to do -- random blood testing? Again, lets forget about superstitious belief and just be logical. I have thought of this a childhood dare: "If you are really braved, do this ---" or "We won't let you in the group if you do this --". Boxing is already a professional sport and are guided by rules, commission and government agencies NOT childish talks/dare. If somebody says you have to hold your balls for 10 minutes to fight somebody doesn't mean you have to do it in order to be a professional boxer. There are logical demands and there are illogical demands. Re-read #1, #2, #3 and #4.



        Conclusion:

        The statement that Mayweather is concern that Pacquiao is on something that would make the fight "unfair" is TOTALLY UNFOUNDED.

        So, this made me think, if the concern that the fight would be "unfair" because of banned substance is out the window, what is the REAL concern the Mayweather's have for not fighting Pac?

        Hint: High-Reward -- High Risk scenario

        As a businessman, thats a very hard decision to think.

        And the answer came out of Floyd Sr instead when asked before if he want's Floyd Jr to fight Pacquiao. His answer was, "No". When asked why, "I have my personal reasons".

        The Mayweathers simply didn't take the high road. In a not so courteous language. They Mayweathers simply "chickened out".
        Last edited by CoolDad; 01-12-2010, 02:37 AM. Reason: spelling check

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        • jetgeomcx
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          #74
          Originally posted by Adrian 28
          Pac is going to get owned in this lawsuit.
          correction!!
          all defendants will owe manny a lot....

          Originally posted by JSS
          Here's the video you wanted, "MAN LOSES HIS MIND: MESSAGE TO PACQUIAO..."

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02VtrZW1DfY
          who the **** is that guy....telling the p4p king to submit to the whims of a runner-ducker!!

          Originally posted by P4P305
          Thanks alot, man. That guy is hilarious, he should be a stunt double for Ben Stiller.
          hilarious???
          the guy is not even joking......and u say he's hilarious!!

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          • BABYBOXER
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            #75
            Originally posted by Igotgame
            I really respect Mayweather for trying to change boxing by having random blood testing. Eventhough his fight with Pac is now over, I know he will continue with his quest to change boxing by having random blood test for all his fights and all the fighters that is signed up with Mayweather Promotions. Hooray for Floyd for having character and not let money dictate his wanting change.

            p.s. I will be devastated if Floyd doesn't do this because it will make me think that he didn't really care about making any changes but he had an agenda. Say is isn't so Floyd!
            it looks like floyd is the drug dependent here. he can not fight without shooting xylocaine. without this stuff he will not perform well. he needs this to enhance his performance to box. is it legal to fight with the aid of drugs?

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              #76
              Originally posted by CoolDad
              I'm a pac fan. I followed his fights since he was known as Kid Kulafu.

              The article is just a PR stunt trying to get the sympathy of the jury.

              Let get down to business and deal with facts. Also, lets not deal with the issue of blood testing. Let's deal with the concerns regarding the issue. Mayweather is concern that Pacquiao is on something that would make the fight "unfair". Forget about the contradictions about what the Mayweathers said about Pacquiao will be beaten silly by Floyd Jr, Pacquiao is no match for Floyd Jr or Pacquiao is one-dimensioned fighter. Remember: "Fish ain't caught by the tail - Fish are caught by their big mouths". Let's get down to what the root cause of the matter is.

              STATEMENT: Mayweather is concern that Pacquiao is on something that would make the fight "unfair".

              1. Pacman didn't just want a blood test 30 or 24 days before the fight, he also agreed to a blood test immediately right after the fight. Mayweather fanatics would turn a blind eye and try not to deal with this fact. ANY PED, chemicals or medications that should be found with a blood test right before the fight would ALSO be found in the blood test immediately after the fight. Don't argue with me about this fact, even if i post my credentials, close-minded persons would always "know" better. Ask any independent biochemical experts

              2. It had been explain to floyd by independent scientific experts that PED's or any suspected banned substance would stay in the system for at least 40 days. So, a 30-24 day before the fight and immediately right after window, is enough to determine that Floyd Jrs concern are well-noted but is not well-grounded.

              3. Despite assurances, experts opinion and scientific evidences to allay Floyd's concern about banned substances, Floyd Jr still didn't want to fight. Even with the 14 day window offered by Floyd Jr., it makes no difference if its done 30 days before and immediately after.

              4. Let's forget for an instance that Pacquiao is extremely supertitious to not agree to the fight if blood was drawn immediately before the fight. Let's think about this as a matter of fact. Nevada Boxing Commission does not require a blood test. Floyd demanded random blood testing. Pacquiao already COMPROMISED to a 30-24day and immediately right after the fight blood test. What is there to compromise for in the 14 day before period? Re-read Bullet point #1, #2 and #3.

              5. If Pacquiao wants the fight, why haven't Pacquiao just do the "cavalier" thing to do -- random blood testing? Again, lets forget about superstitious belief and just be logical. I have thought of this a childhood dare: "If you are really braved, do this ---" or "We won't let you in the group if you do this --". Boxing is already a professional sport and are guided by rules, commission and government agencies NOT childish talks/dare. If somebody says you have to hold your balls for 10 minutes to fight somebody doesn't mean you have to do it in order to be a professional boxer. There are logical demands and there are illogical demands. Re-read #1, #2, #3 and #4.



              Conclusion:

              The statement that Mayweather is concern that Pacquiao is on something that would make the fight "unfair" is TOTALLY UNFOUNDED.

              So, this made me think, if the concern that the fight would be "unfair" because of banned substance is out the window, what is the REAL concern the Mayweather's have for not fighting Pac?

              Hint: High-Reward -- High Risk scenario

              As a businessman, thats a very hard decision to think.

              And the answer came out of Floyd Sr instead when asked before if he want's Floyd Jr to fight Pacquiao. His answer was, "No". When asked why, "I have my personal reasons".

              The Mayweathers simply didn't take the high road. In a not so courteous language. They Mayweathers simply "chickened out".
              nice first post, dad!

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                #77
                Originally posted by Talisayen
                ohhh syet, i hope the mayweathers' have enough money to maintain their lifestyle after Pacquiao wins the lawsuit.



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                That's cool

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                • FeFist
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                  #78
                  Lol at people thinking Pacquiao will get a dime out of this lawsuit.

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                  • StarRican
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Kok123
                    Cotto was 2 pounds heavier than Manny. Yes, so much lighter. Not to mention, Cotto and Floyd is the same thing, when they were 16 they were was 106 pounds like Manny. Oh and steroids don't improve speed.



                    Oh yes he did. By Nevada too.
                    I don't care about Floyd or Manny..but you sir are a moron! Ask Marion Jones what it can do to your speed?! Damm are there anymore idiots out here like this one that I can call out!

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                    • jetgeomcx
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by P4P305
                      That would be a ***** move by him, he's to egotistic to do that. This is Boxing, not Volleyball. Manny should of man up and take the DAMN test.
                      it is floyd who should have man-up in the first place
                      only if he did not start this whole fu**ing fisco!!
                      floyd's real reason for his unprecedented silly demand is fear.
                      that's all there is in floyd...fear of losing big time.
                      remember how seniour said "floyd will whoop manny's ass roids or no roids".
                      now how come?? after the manny-cotto fyt, how come??
                      floyd's motive is fear.....

                      Originally posted by King22
                      i love how all these people are saying Floyd has no right to ask the the guy that HE IS GOING TO BE FIGHTING to be tested extra its his safety his life is on the line nobody else and if your clean then what does it matter why pass up on 40 mill it makes no since

                      and another funny thing to me is that anybody who faces Floyd will have to take these tests and i bet the only fighter who will refuse it is Manny Pacquiao
                      of course floyd from now on will have to demand random blood tests in all his foes....he better be.
                      floyd will have to do that otherwise he contradicts himself again.
                      poor floyd...he will become a victim of his own ghost!!

                      you and others do not see this from a logical standpoint. you just believe Manny is saying NO per se to drug test! This is all misinformation being propagated by the Mayweather camp. all because of what?!?!?! TO SATISFY THEIR BASELESS DOUBTS? For all you know they just want tick manny off and gain a psychological edge.

                      Originally posted by dorruel2.0
                      i doubt it but still, kinda sucks how Manny couldnt man up, and prove hes the better/clean fighter. Anyone stating Floyd is ducking this fight is clearly lying to themselves, and in denial.
                      denial?? i can claim the same on you. what the mayweathers did is unacceptable, try to damage manny's reputation and demand to obey their own rules never done before! they are trying to gain not only a physical edge on manny but a psychological edge as well. floyd and gbp knows manny does not want to be tested before the fight because it weakens him.

                      manny speaks from experience as to why he refuses to give blood any time near fight night which Team Mayweather is subjecting him to do. As a compromise, pac is willing to submit to a blood test immediately after the fight.

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