well oscar and al haymond still told floyd to till take the fight but he said no...well I have a lot of respect for clouds skill inside the ring but he still should have b in the conversation when who fought who in the WW division!! The thing is he didn't fight any of the top 5 or 6 WW that r there right now so idk whats up wit that???? Floyd does say he's the greatest fighter in boxing and not right now but in HISTORY!!!!!! So I just want floyd to fight the best of the best and show why he's a ATG that he says he is..
blame that son of a ***** floyd...he wants to reform boxing rules to make the fight.....****ing coward!
RIGHT!!!
BUT,Manny could have agree.
Now,no fight!!!
Both fighters are too blame.
Pacman with have a good test against a fighter like Clottey who as never been stopped and this at 147.Hereis the difference between the Cotto fightand the Clotteys fight.
WHAT BOXERS HAVE BEEN CAUGHT USING STEROIDS DURING THERE PROFESSIONAL CAREERS?
SEVERAL COME TO MIND
SHANE MOSLEY
JAMES TONEY( twice - Ruiz fight and Batchelder fight)
BOTH HAVE PROVEN TO HAVE USE STEROIDS
GOING FOWARD IN CASE YOU GUY'S FORGOT FREDDIE ROACH WAS JAMES TONEY TRAINER AT THE TIME HE WAS CAUGHT USING STEROIDS AND GUESS WHAT HE WAS AWARE OF IT! ( Trainer Freddie Roach said, "The Ruiz fight, James was coming off an injury and we didn't have enough time for it to completely heal. He wasn't at one-hundred percent. The steroids didn't seem to affect him at all, we didn't even know it was still in his system for that fight. James was just himself in the Ruiz fight. His boxing ability won him the fight.)
Roach is biased when it comes abouthis fighters.
Of course he's goin to say some BS like Roids changed nothing and tell us excuses.
there may be no winners, but there surely are losers....
US, the boxing fans.....
i think the last line summed up the article best...."Instead of being remembered for what they did, Mayweather and Pacquiao will be remembered for what they didn't."
Real,honnest and non biased talk.
I'm a pac fan,not really a Floyd fan for some reasons.But I agree with you buddy.
both sides made demands the other side didnt want. Neither wanted to give in. The result? Total failure. I will not argue which side is more to blame. The bottom line is that because of both side's non negotiable stance, the fight is off. So the failure should be blamed to all. As far as the journalists are concerned, it doesnt help any if they concoct stories that are based on rumors and conjectures, like those mentioned in the article.
i know where your coming from but can't agree with you. FLOYD IS TO BLAME. manny immediately agreed to 50/50 even though his fight with cotto had way more hype in vegas than floyds, more fans and did a lot more ppvs. ring size, weight, gloves were all standard. welters where 8oz gloves. the penalty for being over weight wasn't standard but floyd had just PURPOSELY (DIDN'T TRY)missed weight by 2lbs and if you know anything that is huge in boxing and the fight could have been called off because of it. everything was set for the fight to go ahead. AND THEN FLOYD SUDDENLY BECAME A MEMBER OF HIS OWN BOXING COMMISSION THAT REQUIRED RANDOM BLOOD TESTS THE SPORT HAS NEVER SEEN BEFORE. AND EVEN THAT MANNY AGREED TO 3 BLOOD TESTS RANDOMLY UP TO 24 DAYS BEFORE AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER. I PERSON TO BLAME. THE SAME GUY WHO HAD EXCUSES TO NOT FIGHT COTTO AND MOSLEY........
Although i thought it was a brilliantly written article, I do agree with you Solly that the best in the division have fought each other with the exception to one name.
KFC. I wonder who his unnamed opponent will be. Mathew Hatton. Paulie Malignaggi. Bobby Pacquiao. Marquez Part II. Marquez's brother. Marquez's sister. Clottey's cousin. Cotto's dog. Mosley's aunt. Williams' girlfriend.
Mayweather is a joke.
hit it right on the nail. everybody is at fault, both teams, even media. Hopefully, the next time they restart negotiations, IF they get to that, they can finally work out a deal.
Best post in this thread. Most boxing fans-- people who follow the sport, and don't live and die with 1 fighter (ie: Manny or Floyd)-- see that both sides are at fault. A lot of the blame has to placed on the media as well (I would never call some of these hacks journalists.)
The author of this acmanarticle says there is no reason to believe Pacman is on steroids because he uses speed and style (bull***). He didn't beat Cotto with speed and style. He simply walked up to a bigger man and went head to head-PLEASE!!!!!!!!
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