Floyd Mayweather really wants the Pac fight.

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  • Bogig
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    #31
    Dude, boxing is an incredibly violent sport. If you were a boxer, you would understand how physically brutal it is , even in training, when you are sparring with live opponents, hitting and getting hit. When you have your blood drawn and you go out there and train vigorously and then spar with live opponents, I don't think any of us have any idea how wretched that can be!

    Roach has explained that Manny's weakness is physically or psychologically feeling week for a few days after blood is drawn from him. Whether you believe that or not, the request for blood testing has not been approved by the governing body, and therefore i don't think it's fair to hold anyone accountable for tests that are not part of the rules for drug screening in the first place!

    Manny has already agreed to 24 day window and immediately after the fight! If he were on any kind of PED's or whatever, he would not agree to any kind of blood testing or unlimited urine testing because he will risk getting caught ! Most experts will tell you that these PED's, or HGH's will stay in the body for at least 40 days! So why would Manny even agree to any kind of blood testing within a month's window?

    This fight could've been made easy but Floyd seems to be posturing at times, and timing his responses when things are out of reach just to show the world that he want this fight!

    This has become a media circus, perhaps because of both men, but this fight could've been easily made. I just don't see why folks are pinning this on Pac, when he has already compromised on some of Floyd's demands that should not even be official in the first place!

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    • littlemac
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      #32
      Originally posted by JQside
      The $10 million dollar penalty was appropriate because Floyd was caught cheating in his last fight with Marquez, while Manny is being subjected to testing because of steroid su****ion. Apples and oranges. How many times do people have to mention this silly $10 million argument?

      Anyways, these blame game debates are now useless. Why would I even blame Floyd who doesn't want the fight to begin with? I thought the 14 day offer was just a last ditch effort to save face. Probably in Pacquiao's mind he already offered compromises above and beyond what is normal in boxing. He was probably thinking at that point, "when are these demands going to end? Nope, I'm not going to submit to anything anymore, lest I'd look like a fool. This guy is really not interested in the fight."
      Your missing the point dumbass. Nobody is talking about if its wrong or right to inforce that penalty. Its the timing that it was brought forward. It was brought up at the very end during the middle of the testing issue.

      Why would Manny bring the 10million during the middle of the testing discussion if Manny wasn't going to agree with issue in hand(testing).

      I already gave the seneral many times.

      Floyd:So are you going to agree on testing finally?

      Pac: (Manny's last desparet bluff) Will you agree on 10million penalty?

      Floyd: Sure

      Pac:well am still not agreeing.

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      • SCUD.
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        #33
        If Floyd really wanted the fight all he had to do is accept the champion's 24-day cut off.

        Why do some pea-brained *****s don't understand that.

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        • littlemac
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          #34
          Originally posted by Bogig
          Dude, boxing is an incredibly violent sport. If you were a boxer, you would understand how physically brutal it is , even in training, when you are sparring with live opponents, hitting and getting hit. When you have your blood drawn and you go out there and train vigorously and then spar with live opponents, I don't think any of us have any idea how wretched that can be!

          Roach has explained that Manny's weakness is physically or psychologically feeling week for a few days after blood is drawn from him. Whether you believe that or not, the request for blood testing has not been approved by the governing body, and therefore i don't think it's fair to hold anyone accountable for tests that are not part of the rules for drug screening in the first place!

          Manny has already agreed to 24 day window and immediately after the fight! If he were on any kind of PED's or whatever, he would not agree to any kind of blood testing or unlimited urine testing because he will risk getting caught ! Most experts will tell you that these PED's, or HGH's will stay in the body for at least 40 days! So why would Manny even agree to any kind of blood testing within a month's window?

          This fight could've been made easy but Floyd seems to be posturing at times, and timing his responses when things are out of reach just to show the world that he want this fight!

          This has become a media circus, perhaps because of both men, but this fight could've been easily made. I just don't see why folks are pinning this on Pac, when he has already compromised on some of Floyd's demands that should not even be official in the first place!
          BLah blah blah man. Your beating around the bush man. Why is it an issue now? Answer me that. Why is it an issue now and why was it not an issue then?

          We can debate about how olympic testing is good or bad and cut off time, but thats a totally different arguement. The question is why were these issue not brought to the table from the get go. Why did we only hear about these needle issue near the end when Floyd had agreed on everything Pac demanded.

          If you could prove to me any documented source dating before these negotiations that Manny had needle problems then I will rethink my thoughts on this whole issue.

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          • Schmerzen
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            #35
            Originally posted by Lady Fan 2
            Exactly, Why would 'Lil Floyd be afraid of the 24-day cutoff time anyway? He says he can easily beat the Pacman. Hmmm... Very, very suspect.
            lil floyd?
            pac is 5'6"
            my 10 years old sister is taller haha.
            lady fan is clearly the most annoying person on boxingscene.
            i dont care if she is hot or not, i bet she just started watching boxing since pac got famous.
            the most biased person here, cant take anything u say serious.

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            • alexpz
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              #36
              Originally posted by T3dBundy
              lil floyd?
              pac is 5'6"
              my 10 years old sister is taller haha.
              lady fan is clearly the most annoying person on boxingscene.
              i dont care if she is hot or not, i bet she just started watching boxing since pac got famous.
              the most biased person here, cant take anything u say serious.
              so how old are you kid? 16?

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              • bravocharly
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                #37
                Originally posted by littlemac
                Then why agree on it in the begining. Roach backed it up. Why is it an issue now. Why ask Floyd for all these demands if your not looking to accept his. Floyd was the first to say that he will not fight unless they went through olympic testing before the fight was brought to the table. Roach backed it up with anytime anywhere.

                So after Floyd called on all Manny's bluffs. Manny now whats cutoff dates. Why didn't they mentioned this earlier? Thats not anytime anywhere.

                Why did Pac demand Floyd a 10million penalty in the middle of the testing issue if he wasn't going to agree on testing. Was Pac hoping that Floyd would backed down from the 10mill so Pac wouldn't have to answer to testing?


                During testing issue
                Floyd: So are you going to agree on testing?

                Pac: Will you agree on a 10million penalty?

                Floyd: Sure

                Pac: Am still not agreeing to testing.

                That's weak sauce man. Also why would Arum lie about not being offered 14day cut off. Cause Arum knows its fair game and refusing it is just shameful even to Arum's eye.
                You've got it all wrong man ! Go back to FMJ's original demands. There was no Olympic -style testing. When Pac agreed to his original demands, he came up with OST.It's not all about steroids.It is just a cover. It's all about Floyd Jr. wanting to fight a weakened Pacman.

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                • flipside
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by T3dBundy
                  lil floyd?
                  pac is 5'6"
                  my 10 years old sister is taller haha.
                  lady fan is clearly the most annoying person on boxingscene.
                  i dont care if she is hot or not, i bet she just started watching boxing since pac got famous.
                  the most biased person here, cant take anything u say serious.
                  maybe lil floyd because his daddy is floyd too?

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                  • Schmerzen
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by alexpz
                    so how old are you kid? 16?
                    im 21
                    and ye, even kids can give blood, and manny cant do a ****ing RANDOM blood-test for 40.000.000 $???
                    r u kidding me ?
                    do u rly thing i would support a ****** like that, haha.
                    i lost all my respect for manny, and im no filipino, no american, im german.

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                    • DoubleMM
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Bogig
                      Dude, boxing is an incredibly violent sport. If you were a boxer, you would understand how physically brutal it is , even in training, when you are sparring with live opponents, hitting and getting hit. When you have your blood drawn and you go out there and train vigorously and then spar with live opponents, I don't think any of us have any idea how wretched that can be!

                      Roach has explained that Manny's weakness is physically or psychologically feeling week for a few days after blood is drawn from him. Whether you believe that or not, the request for blood testing has not been approved by the governing body, and therefore i don't think it's fair to hold anyone accountable for tests that are not part of the rules for drug screening in the first place!

                      Manny has already agreed to 24 day window and immediately after the fight! If he were on any kind of PED's or whatever, he would not agree to any kind of blood testing or unlimited urine testing because he will risk getting caught ! Most experts will tell you that these PED's, or HGH's will stay in the body for at least 40 days! So why would Manny even agree to any kind of blood testing within a month's window?

                      This fight could've been made easy but Floyd seems to be posturing at times, and timing his responses when things are out of reach just to show the world that he want this fight!

                      This has become a media circus, perhaps because of both men, but this fight could've been easily made. I just don't see why folks are pinning this on Pac, when he has already compromised on some of Floyd's demands that should not even be official in the first place!
                      If you actually believe that blood being drawn is going to affect Manny to where it effects him for 3 days I don't know what to tell you. He needs to grow a set end of story.

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