Floyd Mayweather really wants the Pac fight.

[littlemac]

The poll is meaningless. Non of the voters have personal steroid test experience nor are experts in medical science therefore it cannot be used as an acceptable indicator to what the best test cutoff time should actually be for a World-Class fighter like Manny Pacquiao.

By the way could you give me your thoughts on why you think Arum lied about not being offered the 14day cutoff?

[Talon]

mayweather does seem to be calling his bluff at the worst possible time, causing manny distress and problems. maybe he is trying to get under manny's skin..

roach wants mayweather to know manny doesnt need him, so manny will fight clottey and floyd wont make any money or get any attention. floyd seems to feel he has nothing to prove, that he is the champion and everyone else are challengers

[littlemac]

mayweather does seem to be calling his bluff at the worst possible time, causing manny distress and problems. maybe he is trying to get under manny's skin..

roach wants mayweather to know manny doesnt need him, so manny will fight clottey and floyd wont make any money or get any attention. floyd seems to feel he has nothing to prove, that he is the champion and everyone else are challengers

At least your seeing some light so your not a total lost cause. What do you mean MayJr calling Manny's bluff's at the worst time?!! That's nonsence dude. Floyd accepted them on call. The only time Manny has been distressing and having problems is when confronted with the testing. Manny has used everything to try to have Mayweather duck him so he(Pac) wouldn't have to face testing. Hence this situation and make your own mind.

This is during the last final issue on the table that was being ducked by Manny this whole time.(Manny againts the wall and finally face to face with testing)

Floyd: So are you going to agree on testing.

Pac: (his last attemted to scare floyd off) Will you agree on 10million penalty?

Floyd: Sure

Pac: **** it am still not agreeing.

I mean what you think this sounds like? Doesn't it sound a bit childish and weak? Thats all am saying man. Am not hating on Pac just calling it like I see it.

[Bogig]

If Floyd wanted this fight , he never would have demanded something outrageous that was never ever before done in the history of professional boxing.

Manny left the 24 days on the table and Shaeffer and Haymon both agreed that it was fair, then took it to Floyd and he rejected it flat out without any counter offer.

Then when the mediation fell apart and the fight with Clottey was in the works, he comes back a day later and offers a 14 day cutoff , just when he knows Pac's camp has moved on!

I honestly think he has fabricated all this drug testing fiasco to have something to hide behind.

Objectively speaking folks.

[B u r n e r]

If Floyd wanted this fight , he never would have demanded something outrageous that was never ever before done in the history of professional boxing.

Manny left the 24 days on the table and Shaeffer and Haymon both agreed that it was fair, then took it to Floyd and he rejected it flat out without any counter offer.

Then when the mediation fell apart and the fight with Clottey was in the works, he comes back a day later and offers a 14 day cutoff , just when he knows Pac's camp has moved on!

I honestly think he has fabricated all this drug testing fiasco to have something to hide behind.

Objectively speaking folks.

Schafer and Haymon said that never happened..and Arum admitted he lied about it.

[Bogig]

But still, Manny has already agreed to numerous blood tests: at presscon, 24days before the fight, and immediately after the fight. If he were on PED's, do you think he'd even agree to any blood tests whatsoever? He would risk getting caught! Most experts say that traces of this HGH and other PED's remain in the bloodstream for at least 40 days!

But nawh, this is still not enough for Mayweather!

Manny shouldn't have even agreed to any of the above because they were not required by the NSAC but only by the Mayweather commission, but still he was willing to compromise to make the fight.

And some nuts are still saying that Manny destroyed this fight ?! LMAO!!

[B u r n e r]

But still, Manny has already agreed to numerous blood tests: at presscon, 24days before the fight, and immediately after the fight. If he were on PED's, do you think he'd even agree to any blood tests whatsoever? He would risk getting caught! Most experts say that traces of this HGH and other PED's remain in the bloodstream for at least 40 days!

But nawh, this is still not enough for Mayweather!

Manny shouldn't have even agreed to any of the above because they were not required by the NSAC but only by the Mayweather commission, but still he was willing to compromise to make the fight.

And some nuts are still saying that Manny destroyed this fight ?! LMAO!!

Pacs whole stance is that he need time to recover from the blood test.

Roach said they would be fine with a 5 day cut off.

[jqSide]

The $10 million dollar penalty was appropriate because Floyd was caught cheating in his last fight with Marquez, while Manny is being subjected to testing because of steroid su****ion. Apples and oranges. How many times do people have to mention this silly $10 million argument?

Anyways, these blame game debates are now useless. Why would I even blame Floyd who doesn't want the fight to begin with? I thought the 14 day offer was just a last ditch effort to save face. Probably in Pacquiao's mind he already offered compromises above and beyond what is normal in boxing. He was probably thinking at that point, "when are these demands going to end? Nope, I'm not going to submit to anything anymore, lest I'd look like a fool. This guy is really not interested in the fight."

[littlemac]

If Floyd wanted this fight , he never would have demanded something outrageous that was never ever before done in the history of professional boxing.

Manny left the 24 days on the table and Shaeffer and Haymon both agreed that it was fair, then took it to Floyd and he rejected it flat out without any counter offer.

Then when the mediation fell apart and the fight with Clottey was in the works, he comes back a day later and offers a 14 day cutoff , just when he knows Pac's camp has moved on!

I honestly think he has fabricated all this drug testing fiasco to have something to hide behind.

Objectively speaking folks.

It didn't seem outrageous before. Hence the anytime anywhere statement.

As far as the 14day cut off being offered only after is not true. Arum admitted that is was offered before. Lets just say they did offer it later just for arguement sake. They offered it the very next day. How has Pac moved on. Pac hasn't signed anything yet as we speak so how is it too late.

So tell me why would Arum lie about the 14day cut off not being offered? Why is olympic style testing a problem now and why was the cut off time not mentioned earlier. Why is Manny afraid of getting weak from a shot now? Why was the needle issue not mentioned after the Morales lost? If it was such a huge deal why Pac not bring it up? If it was such a big deal how could Roach over look Pac's issue with needles and say anytime anywhere. Now Roach is so specific about how Manny needs a couple days or so to recover from a shot. Roach didn't seem specific about it then? It sounds like this is news to Roach as well lol......

It just don't add up man.

[Bogig]

If Floyd wanted to change the rules for drug testing, it should have been taken up with the Nevada commission and petitioned/approved.

You cannot make the rules yourself and expect your opponent to go through rigorous testing that has never been required of any fighter before in the entire history of professional boxing!

I say Pac should not have even agreed to any of this extra drug testing because he has nothing to prove !

Floyd does it again! Bring boxing to its knees with this fiasco!