Comments Thread For: Pacquiao May Target Mosley-Berto Winner, Says Roach

[damned1974]

don't be delusional, brah.
it is K-Floyd-C who doesn't want the fyt with manny, or with any live welterwt thereis for that matter.

from article by Marv Dumon:

Floyd Mayweather, Jr suffered other prominent hand injuries including his fights with Zab Judah and Carlos Baldomir in the mid-2000s.

After the Baldomir fight, Leonard Ellerbe was quoted as saying:
"“People don’t know how close we came to ending the fight . . . It was hurt pretty bad . . . I asked him if he wanted to continue and he said let’s do it.”

While he dismissed hand injuries before his December 2007 Hatton fight, Mayweather acknowledged a history of injuries before facing de la Hoya in May 2007, seemingly contradicting himself:

floyd: [My doctor] thinks I shouldn’t be fighting too much more. My body’s tearing down. My left hand is tearing down. And I never used to have hand problems until it started happening later in my career as a professional. Now my right hand, my elbow, my back . . . The s*** goes on and on. It’s nerve wracking.

A tearful Mayweather, was in a much more humbled state at the post-fight press conference at Mandalay Bay:

"Just one more fight and that’s it . . .

People have talked bad about me, said I didn’t fight anybody, but I’ve done all I can . . .

I never felt pain like that before . . .

I’ve accomplished what I set out to do. No man can do more . . ."

floyd also admitted damaging his "(left?) shoulder rotator cup" during the first castillo fyt....... "that's why i don't have the jab!"
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i will not be surprised if floyd will announce another retirement and admit to his injuries......ego permitting!

Like it or not,Mayweather has called Manny and Mosely out at one time or another-I want to personally see Manny vs Floyd,but Mosely vs Floyd is second best.It IS possible,Floyd called Mosely out 2 times in the past and got excuses (his toothache and his vacation with his family were excuses from Shane)....Now I do know Shane called out Manny and he didn't want none....

[jetgeomcx]

^^^
Tygart basically sums up how i feel about this situation 100%.



*******s won't like this:

FH: How might the desired effects that a boxer may want to achieve manifest itself in a boxer during a fight?

Tygart: Take a real-life example. Look at Shane Mosley and his doping program that was reported by a number outlets when he was involved with BALCO. He used both a designer steroid as well as blood enhancing products like EPO. This is a good anecdote as to how these drugs translate very well for boxers.

What you want with that combination of steroids and blood enhancing product is that you want to be the best pound-for-pound, with that lean muscle mass, and to be the strongest competitor that you can be. Whether that means that you are at 180, 170, 210.

Various forms of steroids and human growth hormone are going to allow you to do that. If you want lean muscle mass and be light, you're going to want a lot of HGH. You're going to cut weight, but that weight is going to be lean muscle mass.

It's not going to be fat. It's going to be the strongest pound-for-pound that you can get inside of your frame at that weight.


So, while you might not think of EPO being all that appealing to boxers, that's what allegedly Mosely was doing out of BALCO. And that makes perfectly good sense to us, because that's going to give you the kind of endurance you need in a late round in a hotly-contested and fought boxing match.

It's also going to greatly improve your ability to train. So there is also this sort of recovery training issue and what's it going to do for you on fight night. And it's significant.

i agree with EPO...already read and posted about it some 2 weeks back.
only blood test close to the time of ingestion can detect it.
but manny is still innocent until proven guilty... i can only hope he is.
..meantime the law suit will stay.

[v.cassiusali@ya]

it would be immature to speak about pac fighting the winner of mosley-berto if pac is scheduled to fight clottey in march13. clottey is taller and bigger than pacquiao. this is really a risk for pac. but knowing him to be such, i believe pac will clean up the welterweight ranks with ease.

he's simply the best and the greatest...

[damned1974]

Hmmm I don't remember Mosley asking Pacquiao for olympic style drug tests when he was begging Pac to fight him at 142.

Mosely has the tools (a good right hand and speed)to beat Manny-possibly by ko.When Mosely stepped up to Pacquiao,Manny chose the war torn Cotto...now Clottey-seriously,I'm not paying for this ****.I'd pay 100 dollars to see a Floyd/Manny fight,but I wont pay 1 dollar to see a guy who needs to plant his feet to punch and get tagged all night-we seen that with the Oscar and Cotto fight...

[SugarRayRealist]

MakeDamnSure he take the test, to prove he is really the best! lmfao.

Before the Fight Everyone beats Manny Pacquiao.

After the Fight Manny Pacquiao destroys and KO all of them

MakeDamnSure you are so correct in that Manny has been winning some fights that he couldv'e lost. But what you fail to realize is the PEDs your boy is taking to get the results!!
Thus; he will not take random blood tests. Because, if he did; then I can assure you that he wouldn't be this popular or would have won so many belts.
Floyd Mayweather is not only a smart businessman; but he is also an astute observer of this sport as I am.

[pugay_kamay]

Oh OK I see what you meant with Haymon

I don't know if he makes more money with Floyd. I think that is still debatable. And, I don't know Shane and Schafer are not seeing eye to eye right now. Shane said he still has a percentage in the company. But, he has no problem with signing with Top Rank. And, really think about that. He could be a Top Rank fighter at the same time being owning a percentage of Golden boy...

JRO - that would be tantamount to CONFLICT OF INTEREST and/or BREACH OF CONTRACT on the part of Shane, unless there wasn't any where clause being a share/stockholder of GBP or part-owner(?) for that matter.

[pasawayako]

Mosely and Floyd BEAT Manny.While you Pac-turds have been rubbing yourselves and begging Manny to autograph your *******,the rest of us actually WATCH boxing!

sorry bro, it's just in your dreams u think that floyd or mosley will beat pac.

[check hook]

don't be delusional, brah.
it is K-Floyd-C who doesn't want the fyt with manny, or with any live welterwt thereis for that matter.

from article by Marv Dumon:

Floyd Mayweather, Jr suffered other prominent hand injuries including his fights with Zab Judah and Carlos Baldomir in the mid-2000s.

After the Baldomir fight, Leonard Ellerbe was quoted as saying:
"“People don’t know how close we came to ending the fight . . . It was hurt pretty bad . . . I asked him if he wanted to continue and he said let’s do it.”

While he dismissed hand injuries before his December 2007 Hatton fight, Mayweather acknowledged a history of injuries before facing de la Hoya in May 2007, seemingly contradicting himself:

floyd: [My doctor] thinks I shouldn’t be fighting too much more. My body’s tearing down. My left hand is tearing down. And I never used to have hand problems until it started happening later in my career as a professional. Now my right hand, my elbow, my back . . . The s*** goes on and on. It’s nerve wracking.

A tearful Mayweather, was in a much more humbled state at the post-fight press conference at Mandalay Bay:

"Just one more fight and that’s it . . .

People have talked bad about me, said I didn’t fight anybody, but I’ve done all I can . . .

I never felt pain like that before . . .

I’ve accomplished what I set out to do. No man can do more . . ."

floyd also admitted damaging his "(left?) shoulder rotator cup" during the first castillo fyt....... "that's why i don't have the jab!"
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i will not be surprised if floyd will announce another retirement and admit to his injuries......ego permitting!

Floyds history of hand problems are well documented....its no secret.

His standard reply as to why he took 18 month off is " My body just needed a chance to heal......i've been an active pro fighter since i was 19...i just needed a chance to heal"

So obviously he is talking about all of that stuff above. It's difficult for hands to heal though even with a long layoff given the yrs of abuse he has put them through.......

[GameGod]

Not a chance. Now that all of this about Pacquiao taking drugs has come up, no real challenge will agree to face him without random blood testing.

[JOM'S]

Not a chance. Now that all of this about Pacquiao taking drugs has come up, no real challenge will agree to face him without random blood testing.

that's totally absurd ...

Pacquiao & Floyd brings the most money to any other fighters, I am sure anyone with a pulse and good grasp of reality will fight either or both of them...

there will always be someone there to challenge them