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  • jack_the_rippuh
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    #11
    If Toney is overrated, then Vitali is overrated. Toney has bigger wins against better fighters.

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    • tracylee
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      #12
      Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
      If Toney is overrated, then Vitali is overrated. Toney has bigger wins against better fighters.
      Lol, I agree with that too (just in an agreeable mood today I guess )

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      • Tha Greatest
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        #13
        Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
        If Toney is overrated, then Vitali is overrated. Toney has bigger wins against better fighters.
        Actually lot of people think Vitali sucks...

        I don't think his good, I just think he would beat Toney...
        There is no heavyweight today that will go in top 30 of all time

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        • jack_the_rippuh
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          #14
          Originally posted by Tha_Great_Rippuh
          Actually lot of people think Vitali sucks...

          I don't think his good, I just think he would beat Toney...
          There is no heavyweight today that will go in top 30 of all time
          Hmm...I don't know about that.

          How about Tyson and Holyfield?

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          • The Pretender
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            #15
            Bull****. Ruiz makes Top 5 of all time. Just above Foreman that's for sure.

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            • Zeroflip1
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              #16
              I don't think Toney is to credit for " ending " Ruiz's career. I feel he would have stpped down after any loss.

              Toney is too hyped for the heavyweight division, he didn't show me anything last night. If Ruiz had played the hugging game, Toney would be on the sofa stuffing his fat face about now..not like he isn't doing it already..

              Ruiz showed a great heart and he tryed so hard to change, I give him major props.

              Toney didn't look so hot last night against Ruiz, I don't think he is ever gonna look good in the HW's. I am not saying Toney isn't a HOF fighter, because he is great, I just think he is outclassed in this wieght division.

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              • Tha Greatest
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                #17
                Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
                Hmm...I don't know about that.

                How about Tyson and Holyfield?
                Other then those 2 I mean

                I mean out of all the champions right now

                I don't think even 1 would make the 30 of all time

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                • Tha Greatest
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The Pretender
                  Bull****. Ruiz makes Top 5 of all time. Just above Foreman that's for sure.
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