Chris Byrd had his way with the Klitschkos

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  • Super_Lightweight
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    #21
    hmm

    So at least you and Roy Jones Jr. have the same interpretation of "doing his thing" while Jim Lampley as well as the rest of world seem to hold my interpretation of it.
    I'm gonna burst your bubble a little bit. I am not the only one who thinks that, as evidenced by the previous response by Bozo no no and others. What makes your opinion so founded? It certainly cannot be that the "whole world" agrees with you. Lampley only questioned that Roy would say Byrd did his thing vs Wladimir, which Roy never meant to imply. So Lampley even doesn't really see it the way you do either.

    You seem to be saying Roy said Byrd dominated both Klitschkos, while Lampley was only questioning Roy when he thought Roy was implying that Byrd had his way with Wladimir, which of course Roy said he meant Toney would have his way with them.

    Watch the tape again.

    As far as doing his thing vs Vitali, read Bozo's post.

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    • fight fan
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      #22
      Roy used the Byrd victory over Vitali as an analogy as to why either Klitschko would be easy for Toney???? He as a former fighter should have had more sense than to even mention the Byrd victory like it was a legitamite win!!!! In his eyes, only Rahman poses a threat to Toney in the whole division?? The same Rahman who lost to an older Holyfield, Ruiz, Maskaev........... But the Klitschko's would be an easy fight for 5'9" James Toney?? HBO hired this man as an expert analyst?

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      • masterdirector
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        #23
        Neurosis or whatever, you're just plain...being a Jones hater clearly.

        Byrd held his own against the Klitschkos despite the huge size difference and the probability that Byrd was drugged in Germany.

        Jones pointed this out. Wlad was thought to be the better of the brothers and yes he beat Byrd, but then the HBO agenda of shoving the Klitschkos down our throats was turned on its head when Wlad got his ass knocked out in 2 rounds by Sanders. Lucky for HBO, Wlad had a brother who had been majorly in Wlad's shadow. Come on, nobody gave a **** really about Vitali until Wladimir lost. Then HBO flipped the script and said Vitali was the REAL contender. But Byrd already has the win over Vitali.

        Also, HBO wants Vitali vs. Rahman right now. And clearly they want Toney vs. Byrd. Toney just had his match. Byrd needs an opponent. Rahman will likely wait around for Vitali. The logical choice for the big opponent was the winner of Ruiz vs. Toney. So Jones was going in that direction. Also, I'm pretty confident that Jones just doesn't buy the Klitschko hype and thinks they're a joke, which, really, they are.

        Jones is also a visionary of sorts. He holds a win over Toney. Every good thing that happens to Toney also indirectly benefits Jones. And there's always the crazy possibility of a rematch. Imagine it. The two former middleweights that beat the heavyweight everyone hated get it on at heavyweight for a huge rematch. **** like that is easy to sell.

        You really think Toney wouldn't beat Vitali? I'm not saying he'd demolish him, but only b/c Vitali is so huge. Toney would completely out manuever Vitali. Byrd might be slick, but he's not at the level of Toney in that regard.

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        • Super_Lightweight
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          #24
          hh

          Roy has proved his insight and expertise on the sport on boxing many times. He likes Toney a lot obviously, and he is entitled to hos own opinion.

          It would not be unreasonable to say that Toney could fair well vs the Klitschkos because they are tall and he can see their punches coming from a mile away. Although I feel differently and you do too, that does not mean Roy's opinion is ******. He kows more than you and me combined.

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          • Kid Achilles
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            #25
            "Byrd held his own against the Klitschkos despite the huge size difference and the probability that Byrd was drugged in Germany. "

            If you consider getting the living **** kicked out of you "holding your own" then Byrd did that against Wlad.

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            • Bozo_no no
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              #26
              Originally posted by Kid Achilles
              "Byrd held his own against the Klitschkos despite the huge size difference and the probability that Byrd was drugged in Germany. "

              If you consider getting the living **** kicked out of you "holding your own" then Byrd did that against Wlad.

              Byrd's not a "Natural" Heavyweight.

              For him to have fought both Klitschkos in Germany and to have come away 1-1 and not get stopped says something on its own.

              The Klitschko's are super Heavyweights, and Byrd is a small Heavyweight.

              I think it's fair to say he held his own.

              Say what you will about Byrd, he's a gutsy fighter for his size.

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              • Neuraxis
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                #27
                Originally posted by masterdirector
                Neurosis or whatever, you're just plain...being a Jones hater clearly.

                Byrd held his own against the Klitschkos despite the huge size difference and the probability that Byrd was drugged in Germany.
                This is where I stopped reading. What a waste of time.

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                • legend
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by masterdirector
                  Neurosis or whatever, you're just plain...being a Jones hater clearly.

                  Byrd held his own against the Klitschkos despite the huge size difference and the probability that Byrd was drugged in Germany.

                  Jones pointed this out. Wlad was thought to be the better of the brothers and yes he beat Byrd, but then the HBO agenda of shoving the Klitschkos down our throats was turned on its head when Wlad got his ass knocked out in 2 rounds by Sanders. Lucky for HBO, Wlad had a brother who had been majorly in Wlad's shadow. Come on, nobody gave a **** really about Vitali until Wladimir lost. Then HBO flipped the script and said Vitali was the REAL contender. But Byrd already has the win over Vitali.

                  Also, HBO wants Vitali vs. Rahman right now. And clearly they want Toney vs. Byrd. Toney just had his match. Byrd needs an opponent. Rahman will likely wait around for Vitali. The logical choice for the big opponent was the winner of Ruiz vs. Toney. So Jones was going in that direction. Also, I'm pretty confident that Jones just doesn't buy the Klitschko hype and thinks they're a joke, which, really, they are.

                  Jones is also a visionary of sorts. He holds a win over Toney. Every good thing that happens to Toney also indirectly benefits Jones. And there's always the crazy possibility of a rematch. Imagine it. The two former middleweights that beat the heavyweight everyone hated get it on at heavyweight for a huge rematch. **** like that is easy to sell.

                  You really think Toney wouldn't beat Vitali? I'm not saying he'd demolish him, but only b/c Vitali is so huge. Toney would completely out manuever Vitali. Byrd might be slick, but he's not at the level of Toney in that regard.
                  Byrd got his ass handed to him against both Klitschkos, luckily VK sustained an injury and couldn't finish a fight he was clearly winning. If Byrd was so confident in beating either of the Klits, we would have seen rematches by now. As for Toney, if he gets in the ring with VK, he will lose. VK could win the fight just by jabbing. I guess all you Toney nuthuggers thought Kirk Johnson's short, fat-ass(sound familiar?) would KO Vitali as well.

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                  • kovy
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                    #29
                    Bird looked like a complete clown against both Klitschkos. Very silly statements by Roy Jones. Either one would have done the same to Jones too.

                    Sorry, meant Bird not Toney.
                    Last edited by kovy; 05-01-2005, 11:03 PM.

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                    • masterdirector
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                      #30
                      hahahaha, we'll see. It'll be very funny...well too bad Toney won't even get to face Vitali since Rahman'll knock him out first.

                      So you're unveiled as a Klitschko lover, which makes you gay. If you like gay people, I consider you gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

                      [IMG]http://img.***********.com/albums/v239/masterdirector/******chkos.bmp[/IMG]

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