I told yall, Toney Best HW today!!!

[TheGreat1]

I know you have, and Toney is good, maybe even great. But beating Ruiz doesn't make him a great heavyweight. Not even close. It does make him good though. He needs to beat Byrd atleast to be condidered near great. He ain't beating Klitschko! That is my opinion. If he does, I will congradulate him and I probably would think he is a great Heavyweight.

I would love to see toney against bryd, i'm sure that would be a great fight. I only hope Toney comes in shape as he did for the booker fight, if he does i think he would KO bryd.

[TheFairPole]

Toney is by far NOT the best heavyweight in the divison. He is dam lucky ruiz was not smothering his ass because the way he fought, he would have lost.

I don't think it was Toney slipping out and avoiding the clinches I think Ruiz just tryed something new.

Toney has no shot at VK, he would be creamed. Just look at the size advantage for one, VK knows how to put that jab in someones face, he knows how to move, which may look like running away I admit, but its effective at getting away, I think his akward style would make it impossible for toney to effectivly counter him all night and score.

Calling ruiz a bum right now isnt saying much for Toney either, like other people have said, Toney did not dominate Ruiz. Toney got the W tonight and for now that is all that matter I guess.

I give Ruiz major credit for fighting a different fight then he is used to, and not looking too bad.

Toney is going to let this win over this " bum " get to his head and step up to someone who is going to put his lights out.

That is basically what I am trying to say! I still don't think Toney is that great at Heavy! We'll have to see, but I just don't see it right now!

[TheGreat1]

if toney has no shot at VK then who does?

[chaawuu]

i wish Mormeck would move up to HW.

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Looking at the shape of the HW division i dont think it really means all that much to be the "best in the HW division today"

[TheGreat1]

Looking at the shape of the HW division i dont think it really means all that much to be the "best in the HW division today"

maybe, but it could be worse, you could be the worst fighter in a bad Div.

[Stickman]

VK is big but you can't hit what you can't see, thats why VK will also fall to toney, keep in mind Ruiz is not a small guy, toney is just good and will be around for a n, accept it.

If that fight ever happens, get your checkbook out and I'll give you your chance to get rich.

[Truth]

Sorry man, but most people think Toney is a fat bum and still do. Bums do beat bums ya know. Happens all the time.

BTW, I bet 5K on Toney in this fight. I just know how to be realistic about the whole thing.

Wow thats sad

[Truth]

People are crazy! People on this thread said James Toney is a degrace to boxing. No! John Ruiz was degrace, James Toney is a great fighter. I can't believe this, its just like what people did over Judah. They talk **** for days saying what a loser he is then when he wins he still a loser. Pathetic...It just comes down to who people like.

[Truth]

Toney so great he beat everyones favorite heavyweight in bad shape.