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  • Doctor_Tenma
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    #41
    Originally posted by vErDuGo
    Mosley
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    Marion Jones
    Barry Bonds
    50 cent
    Mary j Blige
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    PacquaiO????? naaaaw it don't make sense. he ain't african american..
    Reported for racism.

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    • V.WEBB
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      #42
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Hey bro real talk there is no need for that bull****...
      dont worry..he's been reported

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      • Khalid X
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        #43
        Originally posted by Horus
        Shouts out to BOXINGFAN 30 for making this point.

        Point #1: Some PED's are ONLY detected via a blood test.
        Point #2: urine tests are absolutely useless in detecting Some PED's. So, STFU about Pacquiao agreeing to unlimited urine tests. They don't mean anything.
        Point #3: it takes anywhere from 12 hours to 48 hours (at most 72 hours) for discontinuing HGH,EPO,and Some PED use for it not to show up in blood tests.

        Point #4:
        Pacquiao stated that agreeing to 3 blood tests (when first signing the fight, then 30 days before, then immediately after the fight). He claimed that this is sufficient to prove he is clean. It is not.


        Imagine THE scenario PACQUIAO wants....

        Jan-6 : Fight is signed / Press conference
        Jan-7 : Blood test done. Pacquiao tests clean. (obviously)
        Jan-8 : PED, injection
        Jan-9: PED injection
        Jan-10: PEDinjection
        Jan-11: PED injection
        Jan-12: PED injection
        Jan-13: PED injection
        Jan-14: PED injection
        Jan-15: PED injection
        Jan-16: PED injection
        Jan-17: PED injection
        Jan-18: PED injection
        Jan-19: PED injection
        Jan-20: PED injection
        Jan-21: PED injection
        Jan-22: PED injection
        Jan-23: PED injection
        Jan-24: PED injection
        Jan-25: PED injection
        Jan-26: PED injection
        Jan-27: PED injection
        Jan-28: PED injection
        Jan-29: PED injection
        Feb-1 : PED injection
        Feb-2 : PED injection
        Feb-3 : PED injection
        Feb-4 : PED injection
        Feb-5 : PED injection
        Feb-6 : PED injection
        Feb-7 : PED injection
        Feb-8 : PED injection
        Feb-9 : PED injection
        Feb-10 : off
        Feb-11 : off
        Feb-12 : off
        Feb-13 : off / BLOOD TEST DONE (Pacquiao tests clean)


        Feb-14: PED injection
        Feb-15: PED injection
        Feb-16: PED injection
        Feb-17: PED injection
        Feb-18: PED injection
        Feb-19: PED injection
        Feb-20: PED injection
        Feb-21: PED injection
        Feb-22: PED injection
        Feb-23: PED injection
        Feb-24: PED injection
        Feb-25: PED injection
        Feb-26: PED injection
        Feb-27: PED injection
        Feb-28: PED injection
        Jan-30: PED injection
        Jan-31: PED injection
        Mar-1 : PED injection
        Mar-2 : PED injection
        Mar-3 : PED injection
        Mar-4 : PED injection
        Mar-5 : PED injection
        Mar-6 : PED injection
        Mar-7 : PED injection
        Mar-8 : PED injection
        Mar-9 : PED injection
        Mar-10: off
        Mar-11: off
        Mar-12: off
        Mar-13: off FIGHT NIGHT / Blood test Done immediately after fight (Pacquiao tests clean)




        Without randomized blood tests, that would allow for 57 days of PED aided training. Pacquiao would be able to train harder, longer, more intense, and recover significantly quicker than any athlete without such chemical assistance.


        I know it is fashionable to hate on Floyd, but he is 100% right on this issue. Anyone who can't see that is being wilfully blind.

        Another point to take into consideration is the fact that baseball's Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, and even boxing Shane Mosely have never tested positive for any performance enhancer... because they knew the date in advance that they had to give blood tests.


        Every Olympics that I have watched since I was a kid, has had DOZENS of athletes in the news getting caught for performance enhancers. Why?

        Because the Olympics style testing method (randomized blood tests) is MUCH harder to beat.


        A question for Pacquiao fans:
        why would you even want your boy to win if you knew he had to cheat to win?




        Oh yeah, save these one liners


        * “just another Pacquiao hater”
        * “get off Floyd's nuts!”
        * “Bro, come on, you got too much time on your hands!”
        * “Bro, Pacquiao said that he would take a blood test immediately after the fight! That is enough to catch any performance enhancer!”
        * “If you ask me, you're just making excuses for the fact that Floyd is scared!”

        Why do people keep dodging the fact that it takes 5-6 weeks of continuous use of HGH to start seeing the effects of HGH, and a couple of months to see the full effects. So even he starts taking it now, there is no way it will help him come fight night.


        Also how the hell does EPO, a drug that's only benefit is increased stamina, help Manny is moving up in weight? How they hell would it benefit fit in a fight with Floyd. Either Pac's gonna land on floyd on he's not. It's not gonna help punching power, punch resistance, or increase Manny's speed. Also Manny is a well conditioned athlete as well as Floyd and neither has to worry about stamina being an issue as you have never seen either gas out in the later rounds. That's like Paul Williams taking a stamina booster, when he has the best stamina in the game.

        I keep posting these two points but I never get a reply. These are the two drugs people claim manny is on, when in fact they wouldn't help Manny on bit if he takes them in his training camp leading up to his fight with Floyd. This is also the reason why the scientist brought in told Floyd the proposed testing by team pacquiao would be sufficient in protecting him and keeping the fight honest.


        Random blood test is only a ploy to **** with pacquiao and Im glad his team can see through this.
        Last edited by Khalid X; 01-08-2010, 09:32 PM.

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        • mike19727
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          #44
          Originally posted by Horus
          Shouts out to BOXINGFAN 30 for making this point.

          Point #1: Some PED's are ONLY detected via a blood test.
          Point #2: urine tests are absolutely useless in detecting Some PED's. So, STFU about Pacquiao agreeing to unlimited urine tests. They don't mean anything.
          Point #3: it takes anywhere from 12 hours to 48 hours (at most 72 hours) for discontinuing HGH,EPO,and Some PED use for it not to show up in blood tests.

          Point #4:
          Pacquiao stated that agreeing to 3 blood tests (when first signing the fight, then 30 days before, then immediately after the fight). He claimed that this is sufficient to prove he is clean. It is not.


          Imagine THE scenario PACQUIAO wants....

          Jan-6 : Fight is signed / Press conference
          Jan-7 : Blood test done. Pacquiao tests clean. (obviously)
          Jan-8 : PED, injection
          Jan-9: PED injection
          Jan-10: PEDinjection
          Jan-11: PED injection
          Jan-12: PED injection
          Jan-13: PED injection
          Jan-14: PED injection
          Jan-15: PED injection
          Jan-16: PED injection
          Jan-17: PED injection
          Jan-18: PED injection
          Jan-19: PED injection
          Jan-20: PED injection
          Jan-21: PED injection
          Jan-22: PED injection
          Jan-23: PED injection
          Jan-24: PED injection
          Jan-25: PED injection
          Jan-26: PED injection
          Jan-27: PED injection
          Jan-28: PED injection
          Jan-29: PED injection
          Feb-1 : PED injection
          Feb-2 : PED injection
          Feb-3 : PED injection
          Feb-4 : PED injection
          Feb-5 : PED injection
          Feb-6 : PED injection
          Feb-7 : PED injection
          Feb-8 : PED injection
          Feb-9 : PED injection
          Feb-10 : off
          Feb-11 : off
          Feb-12 : off
          Feb-13 : off / BLOOD TEST DONE (Pacquiao tests clean)


          Feb-14: PED injection
          Feb-15: PED injection
          Feb-16: PED injection
          Feb-17: PED injection
          Feb-18: PED injection
          Feb-19: PED injection
          Feb-20: PED injection
          Feb-21: PED injection
          Feb-22: PED injection
          Feb-23: PED injection
          Feb-24: PED injection
          Feb-25: PED injection
          Feb-26: PED injection
          Feb-27: PED injection
          Feb-28: PED injection
          Jan-30: PED injection
          Jan-31: PED injection
          Mar-1 : PED injection
          Mar-2 : PED injection
          Mar-3 : PED injection
          Mar-4 : PED injection
          Mar-5 : PED injection
          Mar-6 : PED injection
          Mar-7 : PED injection
          Mar-8 : PED injection
          Mar-9 : PED injection
          Mar-10: off
          Mar-11: off
          Mar-12: off
          Mar-13: off FIGHT NIGHT / Blood test Done immediately after fight (Pacquiao tests clean)




          Without randomized blood tests, that would allow for 57 days of PED aided training. Pacquiao would be able to train harder, longer, more intense, and recover significantly quicker than any athlete without such chemical assistance.


          I know it is fashionable to hate on Floyd, but he is 100% right on this issue. Anyone who can't see that is being wilfully blind.

          Another point to take into consideration is the fact that baseball's Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, and even boxing Shane Mosely have never tested positive for any performance enhancer... because they knew the date in advance that they had to give blood tests.


          Every Olympics that I have watched since I was a kid, has had DOZENS of athletes in the news getting caught for performance enhancers. Why?

          Because the Olympics style testing method (randomized blood tests) is MUCH harder to beat.


          A question for Pacquiao fans:
          why would you even want your boy to win if you knew he had to cheat to win?




          Oh yeah, save these one liners


          * “just another Pacquiao hater”
          * “get off Floyd's nuts!”
          * “Bro, come on, you got too much time on your hands!”
          * “Bro, Pacquiao said that he would take a blood test immediately after the fight! That is enough to catch any performance enhancer!”
          * “If you ask me, you're just making excuses for the fact that Floyd is scared!”
          Awesome post, too bad it will go over most people's heads on this forum.

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          • Left Banned Tua
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            #45
            Originally posted by Horus
            this reply has nothing to do with my post.
            please address the argument in my post.
            thanks
            floyd thinks pacquiao is on ped's.

            don't fight him.

            simple.

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            • Left Banned Tua
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              #46
              Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
              Why do people keep dodging the fact that it takes 5-6 weeks of continuous use of HGH to start seeing the effects of HGH use, and a couple of months to see the full effects. So even he starts taking it now, there is no way it will help him come fight night.


              Also how the hell does EPO, a drug who's only benefit is increased stamina, has help Manny is moving up in weight?

              I keep posting these two points but I never get a reply. These are the two drugs people claim manny is on, when in fact they wouldn't help Manny on bit if he takes them in his training camp leading up to his fight with Floyd. This is also the reason why the scientist brought in told Floyd the proposed testing by team pacquiao would be sufficient in protecting him and keeping the fight honest.


              Random blood test is only a ploy to **** with pacquiao and Im glad his team can see through this.
              from what i've learned recently , hgh is not effective unless you use steroids with it.

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              • fugu
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                #47
                Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                Why do people keep dodging the fact that it takes 5-6 weeks of continuous use of HGH to start seeing the effects of HGH use, and a couple of months to see the full effects. So even he starts taking it now, there is no way it will help him come fight night.
                source

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                • VERDUGO
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                  Reported for racism.
                  you bitches can report me all you want
                  IT's Still TRUE.

                  Name me a single Pinoy or ASIAN who has history of using PED's
                  and I'llname countless of Black Americans who does.

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                  • cixthree
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    I answered this twice already Horus... I am not going to answer it again. I am sorry... Please read my posts...
                    So what was your answer? I'd love to here it... And is it from a source or just your idea of what happend?

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                    • peyk-peyk
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by fugu
                      Yeah. Because it is LEGAL.

                      Btw, I'm ******ed or something?
                      Yeah, it legal only in Nevada but in the other states it is illegal.

                      Yes, we already know you're ******ed...

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