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  • #61
    Originally posted by fdotorres View Post
    it's been confirmed too that the blood test is more inefficient than the urine test

    confirmed by the USADA

    who's ducking who???
    I actually took the time to read the WADA guidelines on testing procedures and it is very clear that testing is supposed to be random and the athletes should have no control over when or how they are tested. So, regardless of what type of testing is best for finding certain drugs, the athlete themselves should have no control over the manner. So, in essence, the NSAC, or any other governing body who is following the WADA guidelines has the power to do this whenever they want and the idea of any sort of "cut-off date" is completely ridiculous.

    Some would say there are some very specific reasons that the testing is not stricter by certain commissions.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by HighUnderground View Post
      I actually took the time to read the WADA guidelines on testing procedures and it is very clear that testing is supposed to be random and the athletes should have no control over when or how they are tested. So, regardless of what type of testing is best for finding certain drugs, the athlete themselves should have no control over the manner. So, in essence, the NSAC, or any other governing body who is following the WADA guidelines has the power to do this whenever they want and the idea of any sort of "cut-off date" is completely ridiculous.

      Some would say there are some very specific reasons that the testing is not stricter by certain commissions.
      i guess you didn't get what i explained

      either that or you didn't know that team pacquiao agreed on random urine tests until fight night

      if random urine tests are more efficient at detecting PED's than random blood tests, what is the problem of a 24 day limit to the random blood testing?
      Last edited by fdotorres; 01-09-2010, 05:26 AM.

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      • #63
        *****NSTIDIS is spreading like wildfire ....
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        • #64
          Originally posted by fdotorres View Post
          but the USADA already confirmed that their urine test is more telling and effective than the blood test

          floyd's buddies told this, what's his take on that?
          where is that link ?

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          • #65
            Originally posted by fdotorres View Post
            i guess you didn't get what i explained

            either that or you didn't know that team pacquiao agreed on random urine tests until fight night

            if random urine tests are more efficient at detecting PED's than random blood tests, what is the problem of a 24 day limit to the random blood testing?
            No, I am well aware that Manny agreed to random urine testing, but you missed my point. The idea behind the WADA guidelines is that the athlete has no control over the testing period or the type of test. So imposing any sort of cut off date from either of the fighters is actually ridiculous because under the guidelines they can be tested at any time as it is right now. The NSAC just doesn't enforce strict policies like a lot of sanctioning bodies don't because exposing the problem could ultimately hurt the sport.

            Also, the information you are citing about urine testing I believe came from 2003, and there have been numerous other credible sources recently cited as saying that blood testing is a necessity. I don't claim to be an expert on the situation by any means, but I think that with the complexity of different things that are on the market today it's safe to say that both blood and urine testing should be implemented.

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            • #66
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              • #67
                Originally posted by mexiking View Post
                sorry pacman fans! I like and respect manny, but he ducked this one. I hate money just as much as anyone, but he didn't back out of this fight. Manny was given 14 days!...... 14 days! how in the hell could u not recover from a blood test in 14 days? that's just ****ing ridiculous. Be realistic manny fans, something is up. A fight of this magnitude, a blood test that close should be mandatory. U are making bad decisions, when u make money may look like a good guy. ANd that's what manny is doing, he's getting tarnished.
                Pac is ducking nothing. When you are the man, like Pac is, you can call the shots. Not PBF. When PBF was the man, he always got his own way, and now he is like a spoilt child wanting what he wants. Well what he wants he wont get. He has to understand the pecking order.

                He has already got an equal purse with Pac and that was an achievement in itself. Pac has to draw the line for PBF, because PBF hasnt got the mechanism in his head that tells him when hes out of order. A bit autistic.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by mexiking View Post
                  sorry pacman fans! I like and respect manny, but he ducked this one. I hate money just as much as anyone, but he didn't back out of this fight. Manny was given 14 days!...... 14 days! how in the hell could u not recover from a blood test in 14 days? that's just ****ing ridiculous. .
                  Its not that he cant recover but it is almost a superstition of Pacs that the closer to the fight it is it will weaken him, and not more chance that he will get caught.
                  Some people dont have sex in a whole training camp because they fear it will take something out of them. YOu would probably think that is ridiculous as well, but all people have different thoughts about things and how they go about doing things.
                  Respect that. PBF should.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Bacatit View Post
                    where is that link ?
                    look for yourself, you can find it, it in the net!

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                    • #70
                      they fight, they BOTH get paid......they don't fight, they BOTH get the blame!!.....the deal was 50-50 right?!?.....so act like it with the blame game and leave it alone......they BOTH ****ed up!!.....50-50!!

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