And People say Floyd is a *****??

[Sin City]

Its called cycling.. Google it.

scientist were brought in to explain to floyd how safe he would be from manny using steroids and he still declined.. google it.

[fugu]

scientist were brought in to explain to floyd how safe he would be from manny using steroids and he still declined.. google it.

Source please.
I want to know what they said. It conflicts with every scientific and expert source available.

[Pretty Boy32]

scientist were brought in to explain to floyd how safe he would be from manny using steroids and he still declined.. google it.

Your a fucking ****** dude,
You trying to say Manny is using steroids and that it is okay?

[MOREBASS]

I picked Manny to beat Oscar!
That whole fight was a fucking joke, that was not oscar in the ring that night....

Obviously, we all knew that Oscar's best days were clearly behind him. And that he would have to come down in weight to make the fight. But most people, thought that despite all of that...he would still be too much for Pacquiao.

Wrong.

And Yes I am implying that SOME professional boxing handicappers are not knowledgeable of the sport when it comes to **** like that,

These are people who analyze every aspect of every possible variable for the fight. There are literally millions of dollars at stake. I highly doubt they are going to overlook the fact that Oscar would be coming down in weight, and that he would be physically affected by it.

I think that Manny's performance had more to do with Oscar looking like he did, than Oscar's actual condition. Did you hear any complaints from Oscar during training camp?

Or did you hear, straight from the horse's mouth, that he was in the best shape he's been in, and feeling 110%...?

Did you not hear his trainer, Nacho Beristain, say after the fight, that the weight was not an issue?

Just because Manny was jumping a weight divison meant he was gonna be in trouble?? Bull****!

Manny was jumping up TWO weight divisions, after campaigning most of his recent times, THREE divisions below in the featherweight division.

Oscar was completely ****d in that contract, Pacquiao and is ****** catchweights and his paper champ fights are dumb as fuck and anyone who buys into this bull**** is an idiot

147 pounds isn't a catchweight.

LOL @ the notion of Oscar getting ****d in any contract. Oscar De La Hoya is the most powerful person in boxing. He did all he could in the contract, without looking like he was trying to gain even more advantages than he already had physically, without looking like a total tyrant.

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But Roach himself said he thought it would be okay.

Way before the lawsuit and Arum is negoiting not Roach

Team pacquiao has also gotten alot of demands granted by team mayweather. So i fail to see how this 1 item can be such a hard thing to accept.

The Pac request has it merit but I agree its seems ******.

And random tests. Yes they are random. But explain how they will interfer with his training.
They show up. Pacquiao finnish sparring and goes to the sideline. Takes a test in 30 sec and are free to go back.

Try his statements saying talking out blood weakens him ala the Morales fight. Serioulsy, wouldnt you want to train at a maximum pace without interuption and not feeling weak when training to beat the second best figher in the world?

I understand both sides, but as I said before Mayweather isnt scared of Pac. His just wrongly inform about the whole steriod issue by his father. Likewise Pac with his superstition

My response in bold....................

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I think that Manny's performance had more to do with Oscar looking like he did, than Oscar's actual condition. Did you hear any complaints from Oscar during training camp?

Or did you hear, straight from the horse's mouth, that he was in the best shape he's been in, and feeling 110%...?

Did you not hear his trainer, Nacho Beristain, say after the fight, that the weight was not an issue?

Did you not hear Roach saying Dela Hoya was drained? Did you not hear Roach saying he saw IV marks on Dela Hoyas arms?

Oscar was drained as hell. Not that i think it would have made that big of a difference, manny still would have beaten a shot DLH.

147 pounds isn't a catchweight.

No it isnt. But it is a weightclass Oscar havnt fought at in years.

[tepeyollotl]

24 days is still a long time not to be tested



it has been posted several times over and over again that there is **** that can be out of your system by the next day, 24 days is ridiculous



didn't seem to affect him when blood was taken before the hatton fight, wonder why it's so different now



arthur abraham didn't make a fuss about olympic style testing, wonder why manny is

[fugu]

My response in bold....................

I would probably cut a reasonable deal so i could fight the biggest fight in recent history, make $40m and clean every rumour of me cheating.
He wont be drained. He wont have an impact on his fighting. Not from these tests.

All it COULD be is mental. And it is quite ridicoulus that the biggest fight of our era is destroyed because of superstition that is not based on reality.

[Pretty Boy32]

Obviously, we all knew that Oscar's best days were clearly behind him. And that he would have to come down in weight to make the fight. But most people, thought that despite all of that...he would still be too much for Pacquiao.

Wrong.

Yes exactly,
And them people are idiots,
Just like they said Hatton would be too much Manny?
I was right I called it as did other good boxing fans

I think that Manny's performance had more to do with Oscar looking like he did, than Oscar's actual condition. Did you hear any complaints from Oscar during training camp?

No, Why ruin the promotion of the fight and come out and "I will be weight drained and can not fight."

Or did you hear, straight from the horse's mouth, that he was in the best shape he's been in, and feeling 110%...?

Yes too promote the fight

Did you not hear his trainer, Nacho Beristain, say after the fight, that the weight was not an issue?

Indeed I did, He also wanted a Rematch for Marquez with Manny,
then when the fight with Ricky was signed he bad mouthed Pac and discredited his win against Oscar due to him being weight drained.....
Do your homework

LOL @ the notion of Oscar getting ****d in any contract. Oscar De La Hoya is the most powerful person in boxing. He did all he could in the contract, without looking like he was trying to gain even more advantages than he already had physically, without looking like a total tyrant.

Yes Oscar is the most powerful man in boxing but he believed like most people manny was too small for him and that he would Ko him,
He was wrong like most people........


I have no idea where you are going with this?

[Left Banned Tua]

24 days is still a long time not to be tested



it has been posted several times over and over again that there is **** that can be out of your system by the next day, 24 days is ridiculous



didn't seem to affect him when blood was taken before the hatton fight, wonder why it's so different now



arthur abraham didn't make a fuss about olympic style testing, wonder why manny is

remember he's getting tested right after the fight.

that window he can use drugs (if he is cheating) is smaller than 24 days.

plus drugs is not something you just shoot up and you're all of a sudden great.

2 weeks of using it in camp will not help you much.