Comments Thread For: Mayweather Has a History of Being a 'Coward,' Says Arum

[ox805er]

Arum if you're not disappointed then shut the phuck up already! You're sour g****s because you were anticipating a huge pay day you greedy ******** parasite! Let's see if Foreman vs Pacquaio makes anywhere near the kind of money Pacquaio vs Mayweather would have made!

let's see mayweather vs malinaggi/hatton make as much money as forman vs pacman....

[b4real]

Hey stick and move how is it going . I for one love Floyd as a boxer , huge fan. I love how people label him as a ducker, coward, ***** and a chicken right. Everything we here from these negotiations are 100% speculation or pure hearsay. Us fans like you and I, the paying faithful. We as a whole never get the truth just what they want us to hear. The only recourse or stock you can believe in with these big fights, are the official weigh in. For only then you know the fight is truly on. for the comment you made him ducking Margarito, maybe he did maybe he didn't who cares. I'll tell you who care's the fight never got made me, Floyd and all the Floyd fans. For as sure the sun will rise tomorrow that Floyd don't think god, for what happen to Miguel didn't happen to him. In all honesty and retrospect Miguel is shoot way before his prime. In no way shape or form im saying it right, just concurring with the fact it could have been mine or your favorite boxer, cut down in his prime. Personally it's gut wrenching because Miguel will be regard as a could of been or a what if.No story is justified an ending of that nature. With that being said big boxing is a monopoly. A few major plays and a couple minuscule outfits. My question to you is this why is Floyd so ever relevant. The promoters and cable providers run boxing. The fix has been in since boxing hit ppv. This has always been about money, you can live off money not glory. There is nothing more to boxing then getting paid. If these guys felt that Floyd or any other boxer is losing them money. That guy who ever he is, would been ran off the likes of HBO or ppv, fast then a brother at a clan rally. You never here HBO diss Pac or Floyd because when HBO comes a calling and say dance they will dance. As much as love Floyd saying he is his on man not true not true at all. If HBO and the boxing hierarchy wanted to bless us with this fight or any other big in the past it would happen already.

[jtiger78]

F*** it we are the blame!!!!!!

[Stick_and_move]

Hey stick and move how is it going . I for one love Floyd as a boxer , huge fan. I love how people label him as a ducker, coward, ***** and a chicken right. Everything we here from these negotiations are 100% speculation or pure hearsay. Us fans like you and I, the paying faithful. We as a whole never get the truth just what they want us to hear. The only recourse or stock you can believe in with these big fights, are the official weigh in. For only then you know the fight is truly on. for the comment you made him ducking Margarito, maybe he did maybe he didn't who cares. I'll tell you who care's the fight never got made me, Floyd and all the Floyd fans. For as sure the sun will rise tomorrow that Floyd don't think god, for what happen to Miguel didn't happen to him. In all honesty and retrospect Miguel is shoot way before his prime. In no way shape or form im saying it right, just concurring with the fact it could have been mine or your favorite boxer, cut down in his prime. Personally it's gut wrenching because Miguel will be regard as a could of been or a what if.No story is justified an ending of that nature. With that being said big boxing is a monopoly. A few major plays and a couple minuscule outfits. My question to you is this why is Floyd so ever relevant. The promoters and cable providers run boxing. The fix has been in since boxing hit ppv. This has always been about money, you can live off money not glory. There is nothing more to boxing then getting paid. If these guys felt that Floyd or any other boxer is losing them money. That guy who ever he is, would been ran off the likes of HBO or ppv, fast then a brother at a clan rally. You never here HBO diss Pac or Floyd because when HBO comes a calling and say dance they will dance. As much as love Floyd saying he is his on man not true not true at all. If HBO and the boxing hierarchy wanted to bless us with this fight or any other big in the past it would happen already.

I'm not sure I quite understand the question that you pose?. In saying that, you did make some valid points. Perhaps you should introduce some paragraphs in the future. Just a friendly suggestion.

I, too am a fan of Floyd Mayweather, but only in as far as his boxing ability. As a boxing fan first and foremost, I can respect and admire his defensive abilities. I do think that Pernell Whittaker was a much better tactician in the defence department. However, and this is a big however, ...Floyd Mayweather is a arrogant, pompous and immature individual with no sense of humility or respect. How anybody can admire him as a persona is beyond me.

Ok, back to your question. Of course Floyd Mayweather is relevant to boxing, but if he still fails to face top tier competition, then we would all benefit from his retirement. Boxing as a sport is dying, slowly but surely. With the rise and rise of MMA, boxing needs to make these mega fights. Having Floyd fight a blown up Marquez, or a potential hit and run contest with Malignaggi is a disgrace. This will only contribute to the downfall of our most beloved sport.

[Modobo3]

Oh dear, here we go again. Do I really have to spell it out in black and white. Firstly, my mentioning of being biased was purely a reaction to YOUR outlining that those of us who are in defence of Manny's proud stand thus far, are, in your own words ''so far up Manny's ass''. What you fail to realise, is that most people that comment on Manny Pacquiao on this ridiculous affair, are simply sharing their opinion in an impartial an unbiased manner. This cannot be said for those in support of Mayweather. His own fanbase, such as your blind self, clearly reflect this.

The whole blood test fiasco is ridiculous. For Floyd to even request such a scenario in itself is preposterous, but typical of the demands of a man of sheer arrogance such as Floyd Mayweather. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty I ask?. This present day society has inflicted a 'guilty until proven innocent' mentality, however in this instance, it is merely a tool in the Mayweather camp to either unsettle and ruffle Manny's feathers, or to simply avoid the fight altogether. In saying all of this, Manny has already offered to compromise in agreeing to test 24 days prior to fight night. Lets not forget that he has also agreed to test on the day after the fight, which would of course prove if there was in fact anything dubious taking place. It was Mayweather in the end, who failed to compromise in the eventual negotiations. The whole affair is utterly ridiculous.

As far as Floyd not facing anyone. Tut tut, where is your boxing knowledge?. Have you simply choose to ignore the blatant and obvious ducking and diving that has haunted Mayweather throughout his illustrious career. This is not mere speculation or debatable boxing trivia, but common knowlede in the boxing world.

Regardless of Pacquiao, Floyd has a track record of avoiding the stiff tests that would challenge his undefeated record. Have you forgotten one Antonio Margarito, in which he walked away from millions. This in itself proves that while Floyd is obviously a very shallow and materialistic individual in his obsession with the dollar, it is not his sole reason for determining whether or not to square off against a challenger. How you fail to see this is baffling, but I suppose love is blind. Floyd's actions have always spoke for themselves. Avoiding Margarito, Cotto, Mosley, Williams and Pacquiao speaks volumes about the type of man that Floyd Mayweather is. That's not even mentioning never dancing the dance with such fighters as Casamayor, Freitas and Vivian Harris, whom were all in the realm of his grasp. There is no respect to be earned in hand picking opponents who don't present a fair fight. Gatti, Baldomir, Hatton and now a possible powder punching contest with Malignaggi or Matthew Hatton??. Come on, lets call a spade a spade. Floyd Mayweather is a man devoid of humility or respect, a man with no class, but most importantly a coward. He runs not only inside the ring, but outside he's an accomplished runner, too.

You write "and its almost as if you talk like floyd is some scrub". This is both untrue and based on your own fabrications of my own words. I never implied that Floyd was a ''scrub''. What I did point out was that Floyd Mayweather is notorious for ducking fighters that would be a threat to his ''O''. This has been seen time and time again. It goes without saying that Floyd Mayweather is perhaps the most gifted boxer, not 'fighter', or our generation. He has skills in abundance and is a man of technical brilliance. However, one has to face the best, to be the best. One can't build a legacy without facing the best fighters out there. Boxing logic, in its purist form.

You say I'm a ''hater'', but you are wrong in your assumptions. I strive to remain impartial, which you should try sometime. I can recognise Mayweather for his God given talent, but I can also read between the lines. Mayweather will never go down in history alongside the greats, but this is not breaking news. He will be remembered for a career of what could have been. In many ways, a wasted talent.

On another note, Manny Pacquiao is not ''my boy''. Never has he been, or will he be. I don't have any boys, be it through marriage or otherwise. Manny Pacquiao is a man that I respect, not only for his boxing skill set, but also for his humility and respect as a man. This is as far as my following of Manny stretches.

In time, you will come to realise the truth. They say that the truth hurts, and it this case I imagine it will be akin to a swift shot to the liver, or perhaps a sweet uppercut to the kisser. However and whichever way the truth comes to fruition, I do hope that it wakes you up to the sweet smell of reality. Until then, I'm sure you'll be happy to ride the Mayweather band wagon, but that is of course your choice.

Quack quack, who will he duck next?.

Floyd ducked Manny...How???

PBF agreed to every single one of PAC's requests...EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM! I've asked over and over and over again...What concession has Manny made for PBF? the answer is NONE!

But Floyd ducked???

All BS aside...Think for a sec...The boxing community is small and people make all types of assumptions about other boxers...and I can only imagine the back and forth that must occur within PBF's camp and those he would have relationships within the industry...

You mean to tell me... IF you were the former P4P King and PPV King and you ask for random blood testing which BOTH of you would take and your opponent and his team comes up with outright LIES regarding his reasoning for not wanting to take them...You would be su****ious???

Such as being scared of needles:LIED...Images of him getting tatoos...

Not taking tests within 30days because it weakens you: Lied...Tape surfaces of blood being drawn during 24/7 Hatton match...Where he went on to destroy Hatton.

Former Nevada Sports Athletic Commision Chairman & Chief ringside Physcian - Margarot Goodman says that random blood tests are necessary because of the advancement of PED's.

Still, not even a little su****ious...I mean Pac leaves 40 million plus on the table over random blood tests which both Holyfield and A. Abraham took passed and whooped their respective opponents asses.

A lot of boxers and non-fans of either boxer are scratching their heads, trying to figure this out. I go to a local boxing gym and all of the boxers that I've spoken to can't figure out why Manny would pass on the tests if he were clean...You know why, becasue it makes no logical sense...Or unless you fall for the Holier Than Thou response "I've never tested positive before"

All of his reason's have been debunked...Plus, when you lie you can't expect non-fans and even fringe fans to believe you...As sports fans, we've been repeated lied to by the most sincere athletes...

I could understand if he didn't LIE about his reasons for not wanting to take the tests...but as soon as he did, he opened himself to

Sorry but in the very least he looks SUSPECT!

[Stick_and_move]

Floyd Mayweather made outlandish requests for random blood tests. Who is he to change the way in which testing already takes place. Just another example of Floyd's arrogance. There is absolutely no evidence to support any claims that Manny Pacquiao is using performance enhancing drugs. Fact.

Manny Pacquiao compromised in agreeing to move the testing nearer to fight time, while Mayweather's refusal to compromise has ultimately led to the fight being dropped. This in itself speaks volumes. Also, the blood test after the fight would clear up any doubts.

Floyd ducked Manny in as far as he let the fight slip through his fingers. We as the boxing pundit, will suffer for his arrogance.

[Stick_and_move]

Floyd ducked Manny...How???

PBF agreed to every single one of PAC's requests...EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM! I've asked over and over and over again...What concession has Manny made for PBF? the answer is NONE!

But Floyd ducked???

All BS aside...Think for a sec...The boxing community is small and people make all types of assumptions about other boxers...and I can only imagine the back and forth that must occur within PBF's camp and those he would have relationships within the industry...

You mean to tell me... IF you were the former P4P King and PPV King and you ask for random blood testing which BOTH of you would take and your opponent and his team comes up with outright LIES regarding his reasoning for not wanting to take them...You would be su****ious???

Such as being scared of needles:LIED...Images of him getting tatoos...

Not taking tests within 30days because it weakens you: Lied...Tape surfaces of blood being drawn during 24/7 Hatton match...Where he went on to destroy Hatton.

Former Nevada Sports Athletic Commision Chairman & Chief ringside Physcian - Margarot Goodman says that random blood tests are necessary because of the advancement of PED's.

Still, not even a little su****ious...I mean Pac leaves 40 million plus on the table over random blood tests which both Holyfield and A. Abraham took passed and whooped their respective opponents asses.

A lot of boxers and non-fans of either boxer are scratching their heads, trying to figure this out. I go to a local boxing gym and all of the boxers that I've spoken to can't figure out why Manny would pass on the tests if he were clean...You know why, becasue it makes no logical sense...Or unless you fall for the Holier Than Thou response "I've never tested positive before"

All of his reason's have been debunked...Plus, when you lie you can't expect non-fans and even fringe fans to believe you...As sports fans, we've been repeated lied to by the most sincere athletes...

I could understand if he didn't LIE about his reasons for not wanting to take the tests...but as soon as he did, he opened himself to

Sorry but in the very least he looks SUSPECT!

Floyd Mayweather made outlandish requests for random blood tests. Who is he to change the way in which testing already takes place. Just another example of Floyd's arrogance. There is absolutely no evidence to support any claims that Manny Pacquiao is using performance enhancing drugs. Fact.

Manny Pacquiao compromised in agreeing to move the testing nearer to fight time, while Mayweather's refusal to compromise has ultimately led to the fight being dropped. This in itself speaks volumes. Also, the blood test after the fight would clear up any doubts.

Floyd ducked Manny in as far as he let the fight slip through his fingers. We as the boxing pundit, will suffer for his arrogance.

[IMDAZED]

Floyd Mayweather made outlandish requests for random blood tests. Who is he to change the way in which testing already takes place. Just another example of Floyd's arrogance. There is absolutely no evidence to support any claims that Manny Pacquiao is using performance enhancing drugs. Fact.

Manny Pacquiao compromised in agreeing to move the testing nearer to fight time, while Mayweather's refusal to compromise has ultimately led to the fight being dropped. This in itself speaks volumes. Also, the blood test after the fight would clear up any doubts.

Floyd ducked Manny in as far as he let the fight slip through his fingers. We as the boxing pundit, will suffer for his arrogance.

I assume you were all up in arms about Manny's arrogance when he asked Oscar to pay him 3 million per pound for weight infractions? How dare he try to change rules the commission already has in place...right?

[Stick_and_move]

I assume you were all up in arms about Manny's arrogance when he asked Oscar to pay him 3 million per pound for weight infractions? How dare he try to change rules the commission already has in place...right?

In actual fact, I wasn't too impressed with that little stunt either. If you were paying attention, then perhaps you would realise that I'm trying to remain impartial.

Don't assume so much, you'll give yourself a headache.

[b4real]

I'm not sure I quite understand the question that you pose?. In saying that, you did make some valid points. Perhaps you should introduce some paragraphs in the future. Just a friendly suggestion.

I, too am a fan of Floyd Mayweather, but only in as far as his boxing ability. As a boxing fan first and foremost, I can respect and admire his defensive abilities. I do think that Pernell Whittaker was a much better tactician in the defence department. However, and this is a big however, ...Floyd Mayweather is a arrogant, pompous and immature individual with no sense of humility or respect. How anybody can admire him as a persona is beyond me.

Ok, back to your question. Of course Floyd Mayweather is relevant to boxing, but if he still fails to face top tier competition, then we would all benefit from his retirement. Boxing as a sport is dying, slowly but surely. With the rise and rise of MMA, boxing needs to make these mega fights. Having Floyd fight a blown up Marquez, or a potential hit and run contest with Malignaggi is a disgrace. This will only contribute to the downfall of our most beloved sport.

Exactly you nor I have the power to change the boxing landscape. This fight isn't happening because we are so blinded by fanaticism . The powers that be will put on any fight as long as we have legions of people who have a "guy". I support Floyd you Manny or who ever else you may like your gonna pay to see him dance, right or wrong. As long as some one is willing to pay the piper, the piper is gonna give us the same song and dance.......


There will always be believers and non- believers . By nature people will watch Pac next fight , for 1 as fans or 2 to see him lose and say, see he wasn't that good,Floyd vice versa. they have this machine so oiled up as long as Pac and Floyd keep beating guys who have no reason being in the ring with them its gonna go on. People will ***** and complain but on those saturday nights people in america love nothing more then to get drunk pull out the grill. With a bunch of there close friends and watch there guy kick some ones ass because that 54.99 is small price of admission for that good time.

Lets agree to disagree, neither one is scared of the fight the time and place isn't right. Old time proverb why kill the cow for the meat now when you can milk it for ever. Once big boxing as a whole can survive with out Pac or Floyd someone is getting thrown to the wolves sort of speak.
Boxing always way needs a cash cow a beat Pac or a Beat Floyd is bad for boxing right now. Who could take there places. Everyone stop bitching this isn't the 80's the prime time of boxing . People loved boxing just simple boxing any boxer was your guy come Friday or Saturday night in the 80's. In this day and age of celebrity its me first and **** the fans. You would have to be ****ing crazy if you think for a second Ross Greenberg and the fellas from HBO will take the chance of let them, fight opposition that could beat either of them um no. A bird in your hand beats two in the bush. It's our fault this fight isnt happening bc they know they can get 3 ppv's for the price of one from us the paying faithful wake up they will fight. When you may wonder, when the powers at be has there fill or one fighter is no longer need it.........