Drug Testing Guru: Blood Testing is a MUST for Mayweather/Pacquiao!!!

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  • Siggy
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    #41
    Originally posted by MindBat
    One only has to think back to how the NSAC reacted when blood testing protocols were proposed to them in addition to the urine testing they now conduct.

    There is a reason they did NOT say that urine testing was enough or that blood testing was useless and baseless as a detection protocol.

    What they, in fact, agreed on was that urine testing was not as adequate as many had thought, and they made concessions to begin implementing blood testing into their own testing procedures for this specific event (Pacquiao-Mayweather) providing they were allowed enough time to make it a part of their testing program.

    So, the NSAC never refused to allow blood testing to be a part of urine testing. That should be telling and the reason why they think it's a good idea.

    Obviously, there PED's that cannot only be detected by urine testing only.

    It doesn't have to be HGH only they would be testing for.
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    Blood testing equals piece of mind? Tell me, what's the difference between testing for blood doping using urine and testing for it using blood?
    urine testing detects the actual substance.

    blood testing analyzes the composition of the blood such as red blood cell counts (hematacrit levels) of which can be manipulated by other means other than PEDs, such as hyperbaric chambers, altitude tents, training in elevation, etc.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Ray`
      Who cares?? HGH isnt the only thing athletes take.
      so tell me what you think pac is on and what kind of testing it takes to detect it.

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        #43
        Originally posted by MindBat
        1.According to Dr. Goodman, Olympic-style testing is better than NSAC testing which only performs urine tests.

        2.If there's no reason to do random blood testing, why waste everyone's time and money on utilizing it?

        There has to be a much better reason than "blood testing=piece of mind'
        for there to be a monetary investment with it.
        1. could be a question of protocol of which you covered.
        RANDOM urine testing addresses that.
        2. i dont know, but i do know one of the reasons why the USADA uses blood testing is becuz it's cheaper.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          so tell me what you think pac is on and what kind of testing it takes to detect it.
          Why should any of us have to speculate?

          Just take the tests, Manny.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Siggy
            1. could be a question of protocol of which you covered.
            RANDOM urine testing addresses that.
            2. i dont know, but i do know one of the reasons why the USADA uses blood testing is becuz it's cheaper.
            Can blood doping be detected through urinalysis?

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              #46
              Originally posted by MindBat
              1.According to Dr. Goodman, Olympic-style testing is better than NSAC testing which only performs urine tests.

              2.If there's no reason to do random blood testing, why waste everyone's time and money on utilizing it?

              There has to be a much better reason than "blood testing=piece of mind'
              for there to be a monetary investment with it.
              Originally posted by Civilized
              Can blood doping be detected through urinalysis?
              yes. EPO abuse can be detected via urinalysis.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Siggy
                1. could be a question of protocol of which you covered.
                RANDOM urine testing addresses that.
                2. i dont know, but i do know one of the reasons why the USADA uses blood testing is becuz it's cheaper.
                And this means what to you exactly? We're talking about the difference between blooding testing through urine and blood, not the difference between crack and *******. Doesn't the USADA do urine testing as well? Wouldn't adding another (albeit cheaper) test make the whole procedure, in fact, more expensive?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  And this means what to you exactly? We're talking about the difference between blooding testing through urine and blood, not the difference between crack and *******. Doesn't the USADA do urine testing as well? Wouldn't adding another (albeit cheaper) test make the whole procedure, in fact, more expensive?
                  it means i dont know why random blood testing is necessary.
                  would you like to explain that to me?

                  yes and yes

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Siggy
                    urine testing detects the actual substance.

                    blood testing analyzes the composition of the blood such as red blood cell counts (hematacrit levels) of which can be manipulated by other means other than PEDs, such as hyperbaric chambers, altitude tents, training in elevation, etc.
                    What is the point of red blood cell counts? Why does the whole procedure seem so much more intrinsic?

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Siggy
                      it means i dont know why random blood testing is necessary.
                      would you like to explain that to me?

                      yes and yes
                      Great, then obviously the reason why they do blood tests is not because it's cheaper.

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