Drug Testing Guru: Blood Testing is a MUST for Mayweather/Pacquiao!!!

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  • Ray*
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    #31
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    olympic blood test cann't detect HGH... so why not use a test that can?
    Who cares?? HGH isnt the only thing athletes take.

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    • Siggy
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      #32
      Dr. Catlin heads the UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory, one of the top drug labs in the world, and he headed the drug testing lab at the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics. Although Dr. Catlin did not develop the urine test for EPO detection, his lab is one of 6 in the world, as of March 2003, accredited to perform the test.
      it really doesnt matter cuz they test for EPO now.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Civilized
        Pacquiao is avoiding drug tests. We can only speculate why.
        Y'all keep saying the same ****. Just answer this: what's the point of the blood test if there's not 1 test that can efficiently detect HGH?

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          #34
          Originally posted by 2npac
          I understand why there's a need for random urine tests in boxing. But it seems to me the blood testing isn't good enough to warrant the time and money. In 30 years, Olympics and otherwise, no ones been detected through testing, for using HGH?
          There might be a reason why almost all the doctors in testing want both blood and urine not just urine, And there are other drugs apart from ped. Am all for better testing in sport and i hope we see it in boxing soon.

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            #35
            Originally posted by 2npac
            Y'all keep saying the same ****. Just answer this: what's the point of the blood test if there's not 1 test that can efficiently detect HGH?
            Originally posted by Ray`
            There might be a reason why almost all the doctors in testing want both blood and urine not just urine, And there are other drugs apart from ped. Am all for better testing in sport and i hope we see it in boxing soon.
            what makes blood testing better than urine testing? and what makes it necessary?
            what PEDs, other than HGH (which has already been covered) can blood tests detect that urine tests cannot?
            how come nobody will answer that question?

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              #36
              Originally posted by Siggy
              what makes blood testing better than urine testing? and what makes it necessary?
              what PEDs, other than HGH (which has already been covered) can blood tests detect that urine tests cannot?
              how come nobody will answer that question?
              One only has to think back to how the NSAC reacted when blood testing protocols were proposed to them in addition to the urine testing they now conduct.

              There is a reason they did NOT say that urine testing was enough or that blood testing was useless and baseless as a detection protocol.

              What they, in fact, agreed on was that urine testing was not as adequate as many had thought, and they made concessions to begin implementing blood testing into their own testing procedures for this specific event (Pacquiao-Mayweather) providing they were allowed enough time to make it a part of their testing program.

              So, the NSAC never refused to allow blood testing to be a part of urine testing. That should be telling and the reason why they think it's a good idea.

              Obviously, there PED's that cannot only be detected by urine testing only.

              It doesn't have to be HGH only they would be testing for.

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                #37
                Originally posted by 2npac
                Y'all keep saying the same ****. Just answer this: what's the point of the blood test if there's not 1 test that can efficiently detect HGH?
                Why are you HGH obsessed? ...like HGH is the only drug out there?

                Do you know that there are other banned subs on the list?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by MindBat
                  One only has to think back to how the NSAC reacted when blood testing protocols were proposed to them in addition to the urine testing they now conduct.

                  There is a reason they did NOT say that urine testing was enough or that blood testing was useless and baseless as a detection protocol.

                  What they, in fact, agreed on was that urine testing was not as adequate as many had thought, and they made concessions to begin implementing blood testing into their own testing procedures for this specific event (Pacquiao-Mayweather) providing they were allowed enough time to make it a part of their testing program.

                  So, the NSAC never refused to allow blood testing to be a part of urine testing. That should be telling and the reason why they think it's a good idea.

                  Obviously, there PED's that cannot only be detected by urine testing only.

                  It doesn't have to be HGH only they would be testing for.
                  like what?
                  everything WADA (and USADA) tests for, NSAC tests for. they use THE SAME PROHIBITED SUBSTANCE LIST.

                  blood testing = piece of mind. that's all. it is not better than urine testing and vice versa.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Siggy
                    like what?
                    everything WADA (and USADA) tests for, NSAC tests for. they use THE SAME PROHIBITED SUBSTANCE LIST.

                    blood testing = piece of mind. that's all. it is not better than urine testing and vice versa.
                    Blood testing equals piece of mind? Tell me, what's the difference between testing for blood doping using urine and testing for it using blood?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Siggy
                      like what?
                      everything WADA (and USADA) tests for, NSAC tests for. they use THE SAME PROHIBITED SUBSTANCE LIST.

                      blood testing = piece of mind. that's all. it is not better than urine testing and vice versa.
                      1.According to Dr. Goodman, Olympic-style testing is better than NSAC testing which only performs urine tests.

                      2.If there's no reason to do random blood testing, why waste everyone's time and money on utilizing it?

                      There has to be a much better reason than "blood testing=piece of mind'
                      for there to be a monetary investment with it.

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