Drug Testing Guru: Blood Testing is a MUST for Mayweather/Pacquiao!!!

[Ray*]

Athletes can beat the strictest and most effective test IF they know when the test is taking place, Random testing is the way forward and am glad its coming soon, Dont be surprise to see a lot of boxer "retiring" very very soon.

[-The Glove-]

Random is the keyword Random!!!

Whats the point though? The Olympics test randomly, do they not?

[Civilized]

yeah, manny agreed to random urine tests. that should suffice.

Suffice for what? Is there a reason why he wants to limit when and how he gets tested?

[Ray*]

yeah, manny agreed to random urine tests. that should suffice.

No its not, According to 4 different doctors now only the a Random blood and urine test would be good enough.

[Ray*]

Whats the point though? The Olympics test randomly, do they not?

Whats the point of random??? Read the article first, And that way the prevent and catch more people who try to cheat others!

[MindBat]

mosley was not tested for EPO back then. they test for EPO now.
the test for EPO wasnt even developed until 2003, the yr of mosley/DLH 2.

suffice to say, NSAC has made advancements in their testing since.
like i said, the NSAC uses WADA's list of prohibited substances in their testing process. if it is screened by WADA (and hence the USADA) it is screened by NSAC.

as for your further arguments, what PEDs can be found in blood that cannot be found in urine (other than HGH, which has a 0% detection rate via blood testing)?
EVERYTHING passes through the kidneys.

and if you're gonna say anything about masking agents, ALL the masking agents that WADA tests for, NSAC tests for.

Ok, you may not be keen on much of the info on Wikipedia, but I just pulled this up -- and can be corroborated with the WADA's testing protocols for EPO detection since 2002...

Though EPO was believed to be widely used in the 1990s in certain sports, there was no way to directly test for it until in 2000 when a test developed by scientists at the French national anti-doping laboratory (LNDD) and endorsed by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) was introduced to detect pharmaceutical EPO by distinguishing it from the nearly-identical natural hormone normally present in an athlete’s urine.


In 2002, at the Winter Olympic Games in Salt Lake City, Don Catlin, MD, the founder and then-director of the UCLA Olympic Analytical Lab and now head of the Los Angeles-based nonprofit Anti-Doping Research, reported darbepoetin alfa, a form of erythropoietin, for the first time in sports.
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Since 2002, EPO tests done by U.S. sports authorities have consisted of only a urine or “direct” test. From 2000–2006, EPO tests at the Olympics were conducted on both blood and urine. <sup>[18][20][21]


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[Siggy]

Suffice for what? Is there a reason why he wants to limit when and how he gets tested?

blood tests are unnecessary, but yet manny agreed to have his blood tested.
he agreed to random urine testing.

the only advantage blood testing has over urine testing is testing for HGH, of which there is a 0% detection rate.

random urine testing is perfectly adequate, but i guess it isnt cuz it's not what team mayweather wants.

[Pullcounter]

No its not, According to 4 different doctors now only the a Random blood and urine test would be good enough.

olympic blood test cann't detect HGH... so why not use a test that can?

[Civilized]

blood tests are unnecessary, but yet manny agreed to have his blood tested.
he agreed to random urine testing.

the only advantage blood testing has over urine testing is testing for HGH, of which there is a 0% detection rate.

random urine testing is perfectly adequate, but i guess it isnt cuz it's not what team mayweather wants.

Pacquiao is avoiding drug tests. We can only speculate why.

[-The Glove-]

Whats the point of random??? Read the article first, And that way the prevent and catch more people who try to cheat others!

I understand why there's a need for random urine tests in boxing. But it seems to me the blood testing isn't good enough to warrant the time and money. In 30 years, Olympics and otherwise, no ones been detected through testing, for using HGH?