i therefore conclue the PACMAN is clean.. evidence inside

[Pullcounter]

Not true and even IF, doesn't make a difference. How would GBP benefit from that?

I dunno if GBP is affiliated w/ the USADA or not, but if they are, then I can see GBP using this megafight to get the USADA to eventually test for every fight they do, and eventually the USADA will become the ones to administer the test, thus giving them more business.

[Civilized]

i googled it and found nothing

That has been the approach of a certain group. Make statements and excuses that turn out not to be true, or they can't back up.

Besides, Golden Boy said that they are willing to use another testing service - not USADA - and pacquiao still said no.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24344

[letsgobrady]

There are various supplements that will stimulate natural HGH production in the body

[-The Glove-]

1. HGH is the only illegal drug cant be traced by urine
2. HGH cant be mixed with protein shakes
3. Ariza is only giving protein shakes to Pacman, Khan, Vanes

So if Ariza cant add HGH to their protein shakes.. what could he add that wont show up in the urine

i therefore conclude the PACMAN is clean..

I've tried getting these points across! It's like talking to a wall that yells back at random. Funny how they keep saying he's on roids when his urine gets tested. Then they come back with "well then it must be EPO." Wrong again! EPO is tested through urine. Blood is cheaper, can show unusual levels to justify a urine test, and can be stored for years. "Well then it must be hgh. Look at his head!" But just like you stated, you can't drink HGH. There is no such thing as an oral HGH supp!

[-The Glove-]

There are various supplements that will stimulate natural HGH production in the body

Yeah! Sleep also does it as well! Also certain kinds of food! What's your point?

[letsgobrady]

HGH, or human growth hormone, oral sprays are reputed to help restore youthful vigor, increase muscle mass, even increase libido and stave off hair loss by supplementing levels of a natural hormone whose production declines with age

[Civilized]

I dunno if GBP is affiliated w/ the USADA or not, but if they are, then I can see GBP using this megafight to get the USADA to eventually test for every fight they do, and eventually the USADA will become the ones to administer the test, thus giving them more business.

Do you guys even understand who USADA is and how big they are?

http://www.usantidoping.org/

In 2008, they performed almost 8,000 tests. What's another 3 or 4? or 100?

In 2008, Tyson Gay was tested 28 times. 28.

[letsgobrady]

HGH is administered via injection by doctors who give growth hormone to their patients. However, many sellers are now offering the hormone in pill, spray, and homeopathic forms

[Civilized]

I've tried getting these points across! It's like talking to a wall that yells back at random. Funny how they keep saying he's on roids when his urine gets tested. Then they come back with "well then it must be EPO." Wrong again! EPO is tested through urine. Blood is cheaper, can show unusual levels to justify a urine test, and can be stored for years. "Well then it must be hgh. Look at his head!" But just like you stated, you can't drink HGH. There is no such thing as an oral HGH supp!

Here is the critical issue: how does Mayweather get an advantage through the testing?

[Pullcounter]

Do you guys even understand who USADA is and how big they are?

http://www.usantidoping.org/

In 2008, they performed almost 8,000 tests. What's another 3 or 4? or 100?

In 2008, Tyson Gay was tested 28 times. 28.

wouldn't it be good for their bank accounts if they started testing all pro-boxing matches in the USA and other countries w/ big boxing fanbases?