If Floyd WANTED too.. could he have stopped Marquez?

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  • shogunn
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    #41
    Originally posted by Calilloyd
    25 out of 40 fights he had a killer instinct. That's well over 50 percent.
    yes, there was also a time when RJJ could defend himself

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    • THE REED
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      #42
      Originally posted by SkillspayBills
      You cuold count the combinations he threw on one hand. If he decided to go for the kill he would have gotten. I think it might be a mental block or something. He doesn't take the ****ing chance to the point where he could get caught with something, it get's on my nerves.
      Yeah, and it could very well come to haunt him as he gets older.. 35,36,37.. where its not a case of Floyd not having the skills.. but just not having the ouput..

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      • The Gambler1981
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        #43
        To win in the fewest ammount of moves is a sign of extreme skill, I enjoy watching guys not waste motion.

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        • Allucard
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          #44
          Originally posted by reedickyaluss
          I am talking about Physical Ability here...

          If Floyd decided that he WANTED to stop Marquez... If he made the decision to fire combinations, and let his hands go, and give it his all...

          COULD HE, have done it?
          No. He tried but couldn't do it. Floyd is not a young man anymore and he needed to manage his energy well and his experience made him do it. Marquez also never been stopped and was the p4p #2.

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            #45
            Originally posted by The Gambler1981
            To win in the fewest ammount of moves is a sign of extreme skill, I enjoy watching guys not waste motion.
            I personally enjoy watching Floyds skill as well.

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              #46
              Originally posted by The Gambler1981
              I don't think Floyd wanted to ruin JMM, because that would have left a bad taste with the weight issue. Also as a side benefit JMM could get more wins down the road.

              I think Floyd saw it as he would need to do a lot to maybe take JMM out, the way the fight played out he didn't need to go down that road and decided not to.
              That is correct sir

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                #47
                Originally posted by Allucard
                No. He tried but couldn't do it. Floyd is not a young man anymore and he needed to manage his energy well and his experience made him do it. Marquez also never been stopped and was the p4p #2.
                I didnt see any "trying".. I just saw a chess match of boxing.

                And his p4p ranking really has nothing to with anything. Marquez doesnt have business above 140.. even above 135.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by shogunn
                  yes, there was also a time when RJJ could defend himself
                  Yeah, great comparison.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                    Yeah, and it could very well come to haunt him as he gets older.. 35,36,37.. where its not a case of Floyd not having the skills.. but just not having the ouput..
                    It will cost him because he will eventually lose for just not doing enough, boxing judging is not that cut and dry and if you only do just enough to win fights it will eventually come back to haunt you.

                    I doubt he will ever get beat bad though, just won't allow that to happean and people who go in with that kind of mindset will probably have a very hard time defeating him.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Calilloyd
                      Yeah, great comparison.
                      I think hes just saying, back then and now are different times.

                      Back then Floyd was Stopping people.. letting his hands go, defensive, but still had some killer instinct. Now... its just a chess match.. Whats the percentage of his knockouts in the beginng of his career, compared to now?

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