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  • Spacey1991
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    #21
    Originally posted by Lady Fan
    I would say that Team Pacquiao lawyers advised them to change their position and pursue a defamation lawsuit in order to send a strong message to Mayweather and Associates that their "Smear Campaign" will not be tolerated. Now, Floyd Sr. and cohorts will be held accountable for their pathetic actions. JAT
    What wont be tolerated? Reassurance that fair play is in order? Oh yeah, Floyd is **** out of line for that, his fault... nobody should tolerate somebody wanting to make sure neither fighter is on steroids in a sport that is rough even without steroids like Boxing.

    Oh, and most people would go against him on these polls due to dislike, Floyd is a huge draw... but he has drawn so much over the years due to being a villain, people start to dislike him and watch to see him lose (but his plan works well cause it gets loads of PPV's), Floyd has tried to stop playing the villain but its still in peoples minds and they are still annoyed hence why they go against him in most debates.

    At the end of the day, Floyd will be taking the exact same tests, randomly... he might even have his blood withdrawn closer to the fight than Manny, Manny is acting like he has something to hide. Asking for a 30 day window is dodgey and gives them plenty of time to get around it, if its random then they wont expect it.

    Oh and he wants it more than 30 days before the fight, then why did he have blood withdrawn 24 days before the fight against Hatton... and don't tell me he felt week then, its bull****... if Manny has nothing to hide he should just take the tests.

    How are his actions pathetic, asking to make sure that BOTH athletes will take better testing to reassure both sides are being fair, how is that pathetic? Something that could be used as a standard procedure before all fights which would result in cleaning the sport up more is pathetic? Stop being biased. Floyd Jr. (not Sr., I can understand you saying Sr.) hasn't particularly damaged Manny's reutation or taken any of his achievements away from him like you claim, Floyd has merely asked for better standard drug testing to reassure that nobody will have an unfair advantage in a rough sport, Manny and his team are the ones who have damaged it by declining it and being against it so much with some excuses which don't make sense (weakening him, I can understand to a certain extent due to him losing to Morales and blaming it on that but he must understand that it isn't much blood, saying he is afraid of needles is bull**** and damaged his own reputation, loads of people are afraid of needles and still have vaccines done).

    In all fairness, trying to speak objectively... I can understand where both sides are coming from to a certain extent... Manny isn't comfortable with havinh blood withdrawn... who isn't, but its a rough sport... and its a procedure that could clean up the sport. Once again speaking objectively you could say Floyd keeps demanding things and needs to stop and be shown he can't push people around, but with that said a lot of people are questioning Manny and thinking something is up, and not just the Mayweathers... Cotto said him being against it raises questions, Mallignagie says it, Margarito even said he suspects something wrong might be going on. Even speaking objectively doesn't take away the fact that this type of blood testing is a good idea and could very well clean up the sport more if used more often, using it in a fight like this could possibly do this.

    Now that's me speaking as objectively as I can, but I honestly think I am talking objectively to the wrong person... because no offense intended but you are quite biased towards Manny.

    Oh and sorry for the huge rant, chances are people wont be arsed to read it all.

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      #22
      Originally posted by HARLEM AL
      So by logic its Floyd fault that manny dont want to take the blood test. There for stopping the fight.

      Correct?
      Or could it be Mayweather's outlandish demands have backfired on him causing every boxing fan that isn't riding his **** to blame him for the fight being delayed?

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        #23
        Originally posted by Sugar Jay
        OR if manny wouldve just said yes....its a bigger deal that manny said no then floyd asking for the test.....whats the difference between asking for a roids test and having someone from your camp go to the opposing fighters locker room to check on him while he gets his handsw****d?? you want it to be fair right? are they damaging boxers man hood when they have someone from the other camp making sure you dont cheat???

        i dont think pac is on roids but you people are weirdos defending him with every possible excuse when everyone in their right mind feels like its mannys fault...
        The difference lies in the fact that you don't go to the extreme of starting a "Smear Campaign" against a fighter in order to inspect "Hand wraps."

        Are you for real? You are throwing in senseless arguments which don't even address the true reason behind the Mayweather and Associates debacle.

        Pacquiao's reputation is being harmed by the callous actions of Mayweather and Associates and you're either being naive or just plain blinded to this fact. Once again, you have no personal experience in a situation like this so you wouldn't know what it's like to be publicly defamed. Sorry but you can't be taken seriously. Nice try though. JAT


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          #24
          Originally posted by cortdawg25
          40 MILLION or no Blood Test.....do u really even have to think about it?

          only the guilty or illogical would choose a no random blood test stance....we talking 40 M!!!!


          Or how about Floyd drop the Blood test so we he can fight for 40 mil. Cause everyone believe that Pac is clean anyway.



          It goes both ways..

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            #25
            Originally posted by Lady Fan
            The difference lies in the fact that you don't go to the extreme of starting a "Smear Campaign" against a fighter in order to inspect "Hand wraps."

            Are you for real? You are throwing in senseless arguments which don't even address the true reason behind the Mayweather and Associates debacle.

            Pacquiao's reputation is being harmed by the callous actions of Mayweather and Associates and you're either being naive or just plain blinded to this fact. Once again, you have no personal experience in a situation like this so you wouldn't know what it's like to be publicly defamed. Sorry but you can't be taken seriously. Nice try though. JAT


            How has Floyd Jr. damaged his reputation? I can understand you saying Floyd Sr. but not Jr. Floyd just asked for better drug testing to reassure that both athletes are playing fair in a sport that is rough even without steroids. Manny damaged his reputation when going against it so muchy and making excuses that don't even make sense (I understand weakening him a little bit but at the end of the day Floyd will be having the exact same thing done, saying your afraid of needles damages your own reputation and makes people become su****ious... don't forget its not just team Mayweather that have su****ions).

            Are you for real? How can you say that to anybody else? Your one of the mnost biased fans on here and will defend Manny even if he tested positive, you even admitted to me that you are only fans of Pacquiao and Khan before and that Darchinyan is kind of fun to watch, how can you say anything... your one of the least objective on this forum.

            I think they should do the blood testing, but a 30 day window is just ****ing ******... maybe like a 7 day window before the fight where he can't be tested... that way within those 7 days he wont use them because it would be pointless.

            Sorry, but you can't be taken seriously, nice try though... so stop trying to suck Manny's ****. JAT

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              #26
              Originally posted by Spacey1991
              What wont be tolerated? Reassurance that fair play is in order? Oh yeah, Floyd is **** out of line for that, his fault... nobody should tolerate somebody wanting to make sure neither fighter is on steroids in a sport that is rough even without steroids like Boxing.

              Oh, and most people would go against him on these polls due to dislike, Floyd is a huge draw... but he has drawn so much over the years due to being a villain, people start to dislike him and watch to see him lose (but his plan works well cause it gets loads of PPV's), Floyd has tried to stop playing the villain but its still in peoples minds and they are still annoyed hence why they go against him in most debates.

              At the end of the day, Floyd will be taking the exact same tests, randomly... he might even have his blood withdrawn closer to the fight than Manny, Manny is acting like he has something to hide. Asking for a 30 day window is dodgey and gives them plenty of time to get around it, if its random then they wont expect it.

              Oh and he wants it more than 30 days before the fight, then why did he have blood withdrawn 24 days before the fight against Hatton... and don't tell me he felt week then, its bull****... if Manny has nothing to hide he should just take the tests.

              How are his actions pathetic, asking to make sure that BOTH athletes will take better testing to reassure both sides are being fair, how is that pathetic? Something that could be used as a standard procedure before all fights which would result in cleaning the sport up more is pathetic? Stop being biased. Floyd Jr. (not Sr., I can understand you saying Sr.) hasn't particularly damaged Manny's reutation or taken any of his achievements away from him like you claim, Floyd has merely asked for better standard drug testing to reassure that nobody will have an unfair advantage in a rough sport, Manny and his team are the ones who have damaged it by declining it and being against it so much with some excuses which don't make sense (weakening him, I can understand to a certain extent due to him losing to Morales and blaming it on that but he must understand that it isn't much blood, saying he is afraid of needles is bull**** and damaged his own reputation, loads of people are afraid of needles and still have vaccines done).

              In all fairness, trying to speak objectively... I can understand where both sides are coming from to a certain extent... Manny isn't comfortable with havinh blood withdrawn... who isn't, but its a rough sport... and its a procedure that could clean up the sport. Once again speaking objectively you could say Floyd keeps demanding things and needs to stop and be shown he can't push people around, but with that said a lot of people are questioning Manny and thinking something is up, and not just the Mayweathers... Cotto said him being against it raises questions, Mallignagie says it, Margarito even said he suspects something wrong might be going on. Even speaking objectively doesn't take away the fact that this type of blood testing is a good idea and could very well clean up the sport more if used more often, using it in a fight like this could possibly do this.

              Now that's me speaking as objectively as I can, but I honestly think I am talking objectively to the wrong person... because no offense intended but you are quite biased towards Manny.

              Oh and sorry for the huge rant, chances are people wont be arsed to read it all.
              "Bully" tactics and "Smear Campaigns" won't be tolerated by Team Pacquiao. The defamation lawsuit against Mayweather and Associates will send a clear and strong message to anyone involved in sports in general that these callous actions will incur severe penalties.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Spacey1991
                What wont be tolerated? Reassurance that fair play is in order? Oh yeah, Floyd is **** out of line for that, his fault... nobody should tolerate somebody wanting to make sure neither fighter is on steroids in a sport that is rough even without steroids like Boxing.

                Oh, and most people would go against him on these polls due to dislike, Floyd is a huge draw... but he has drawn so much over the years due to being a villain, people start to dislike him and watch to see him lose (but his plan works well cause it gets loads of PPV's), Floyd has tried to stop playing the villain but its still in peoples minds and they are still annoyed hence why they go against him in most debates.

                At the end of the day, Floyd will be taking the exact same tests, randomly... he might even have his blood withdrawn closer to the fight than Manny, Manny is acting like he has something to hide. Asking for a 30 day window is dodgey and gives them plenty of time to get around it, if its random then they wont expect it.

                Oh and he wants it more than 30 days before the fight, then why did he have blood withdrawn 24 days before the fight against Hatton... and don't tell me he felt week then, its bull****... if Manny has nothing to hide he should just take the tests.

                How are his actions pathetic, asking to make sure that BOTH athletes will take better testing to reassure both sides are being fair, how is that pathetic? Something that could be used as a standard procedure before all fights which would result in cleaning the sport up more is pathetic? Stop being biased. Floyd Jr. (not Sr., I can understand you saying Sr.) hasn't particularly damaged Manny's reutation or taken any of his achievements away from him like you claim, Floyd has merely asked for better standard drug testing to reassure that nobody will have an unfair advantage in a rough sport, Manny and his team are the ones who have damaged it by declining it and being against it so much with some excuses which don't make sense (weakening him, I can understand to a certain extent due to him losing to Morales and blaming it on that but he must understand that it isn't much blood, saying he is afraid of needles is bull**** and damaged his own reputation, loads of people are afraid of needles and still have vaccines done).

                In all fairness, trying to speak objectively... I can understand where both sides are coming from to a certain extent... Manny isn't comfortable with havinh blood withdrawn... who isn't, but its a rough sport... and its a procedure that could clean up the sport. Once again speaking objectively you could say Floyd keeps demanding things and needs to stop and be shown he can't push people around, but with that said a lot of people are questioning Manny and thinking something is up, and not just the Mayweathers... Cotto said him being against it raises questions, Mallignagie says it, Margarito even said he suspects something wrong might be going on. Even speaking objectively doesn't take away the fact that this type of blood testing is a good idea and could very well clean up the sport more if used more often, using it in a fight like this could possibly do this.

                Now that's me speaking as objectively as I can, but I honestly think I am talking objectively to the wrong person... because no offense intended but you are quite biased towards Manny.

                Oh and sorry for the huge rant, chances are people wont be arsed to read it all.
                Originally posted by Spacey1991
                How has Floyd Jr. damaged his reputation? I can understand you saying Floyd Sr. but not Jr. Floyd just asked for better drug testing to reassure that both athletes are playing fair in a sport that is rough even without steroids. Manny damaged his reputation when going against it so muchy and making excuses that don't even make sense (I understand weakening him a little bit but at the end of the day Floyd will be having the exact same thing done, saying your afraid of needles damages your own reputation and makes people become su****ious... don't forget its not just team Mayweather that have su****ions).

                Are you for real? How can you say that to anybody else? Your one of the mnost biased fans on here and will defend Manny even if he tested positive, you even admitted to me that you are only fans of Pacquiao and Khan before and that Darchinyan is kind of fun to watch, how can you say anything... your one of the least objective on this forum.

                I think they should do the blood testing, but a 30 day window is just ****ing ******... maybe like a 7 day window before the fight where he can't be tested... that way within those 7 days he wont use them because it would be pointless.

                Sorry, but you can't be taken seriously, nice try though... so stop trying to suck Manny's ****. JAT





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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Spacey1991
                  How has Floyd Jr. damaged his reputation? I can understand you saying Floyd Sr. but not Jr. Floyd just asked for better drug testing to reassure that both athletes are playing fair in a sport that is rough even without steroids. Manny damaged his reputation when going against it so muchy and making excuses that don't even make sense (I understand weakening him a little bit but at the end of the day Floyd will be having the exact same thing done, saying your afraid of needles damages your own reputation and makes people become su****ious... don't forget its not just team Mayweather that have su****ions).
                  It's called "COMPLICITY" (Involvement in wrongdoing: involvement with another in doing something illegal or wrong.)

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Lady Fan
                    "Bully" tactics and "Smear Campaigns" won't be tolerated by Team Pacquiao. The defamation lawsuit against Mayweather and Associates will send a clear and strong message to anyone involved in sports in general that these callous actions will incur severe penalties.
                    What so asking for better drug testing shouldn't be tolerated? Reassuring fair play is in order in a very rough sport shouldn't be tolerated? Random blood/urine testing would be good for the sport and clean it up, I think both sides could be more leniant, for example... have the random blood testing just not 7-10 days before the fight.

                    Why do you care about the lawsuit so much? What happened to people saying "what happens in the ring is only what matters, **** there personal life"... loads of people are showing hypocrisy. Oh, and so are you by the way, since you are bashing Floyd for asking for better drug testing claiming hes trying to damage somebodies reputation and take away his achievements... when a coule of months back you made a thread implying you think somebody paid JMM off to take a dive against Floyd, now your trying to take away his achievements... how hypocritical of you.

                    Originally posted by Makavelli
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                    the DLT impersonation has to stop....really


                    I'm sorry Mak...

                    Originally posted by Lady Fan
                    It's called "COMPLICITY" (Involvement in wrongdoing: involvement with another in doing something illegal or wrong.)
                    What, asking for better blood tests that both athletes will take to reassure both sides aren't cheating, in a rough sport... which if used in more fights would be great for the sport and help clean the sport up?

                    Manny and his team helped damage his own reputation when claiming that him being afraid of needles is a reasonable excuse that he doesn't want to take the test, your just blaming Floyd but Manny has done half the damage himself.

                    Once again, I am speaking objectively... your not... I can see where both sides are coming from to an extent and think it should be negotiated to take the tests but that blood shouldn't be withdrawn 7-10 days before the fight.

                    Manny could genuinly prove all these guys wrong by taking the test and coming up clean... and I don't see why he don't sue Paulie too, I mean... he has been throwing the accusations around much more boldly than Floyd Jr. has.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Spacey1991
                      What wont be tolerated? Reassurance that fair play is in order? Oh yeah, Floyd is **** out of line for that, his fault... nobody should tolerate somebody wanting to make sure neither fighter is on steroids in a sport that is rough even without steroids like Boxing.

                      Oh, and most people would go against him on these polls due to dislike, Floyd is a huge draw... but he has drawn so much over the years due to being a villain, people start to dislike him and watch to see him lose (but his plan works well cause it gets loads of PPV's), Floyd has tried to stop playing the villain but its still in peoples minds and they are still annoyed hence why they go against him in most debates.

                      At the end of the day, Floyd will be taking the exact same tests, randomly... he might even have his blood withdrawn closer to the fight than Manny, Manny is acting like he has something to hide. Asking for a 30 day window is dodgey and gives them plenty of time to get around it, if its random then they wont expect it.

                      Oh and he wants it more than 30 days before the fight, then why did he have blood withdrawn 24 days before the fight against Hatton... and don't tell me he felt week then, its bull****... if Manny has nothing to hide he should just take the tests.

                      How are his actions pathetic, asking to make sure that BOTH athletes will take better testing to reassure both sides are being fair, how is that pathetic? Something that could be used as a standard procedure before all fights which would result in cleaning the sport up more is pathetic? Stop being biased. Floyd Jr. (not Sr., I can understand you saying Sr.) hasn't particularly damaged Manny's reutation or taken any of his achievements away from him like you claim, Floyd has merely asked for better standard drug testing to reassure that nobody will have an unfair advantage in a rough sport, Manny and his team are the ones who have damaged it by declining it and being against it so much with some excuses which don't make sense (weakening him, I can understand to a certain extent due to him losing to Morales and blaming it on that but he must understand that it isn't much blood, saying he is afraid of needles is bull**** and damaged his own reputation, loads of people are afraid of needles and still have vaccines done).

                      In all fairness, trying to speak objectively... I can understand where both sides are coming from to a certain extent... Manny isn't comfortable with havinh blood withdrawn... who isn't, but its a rough sport... and its a procedure that could clean up the sport. Once again speaking objectively you could say Floyd keeps demanding things and needs to stop and be shown he can't push people around, but with that said a lot of people are questioning Manny and thinking something is up, and not just the Mayweathers... Cotto said him being against it raises questions, Mallignagie says it, Margarito even said he suspects something wrong might be going on. Even speaking objectively doesn't take away the fact that this type of blood testing is a good idea and could very well clean up the sport more if used more often, using it in a fight like this could possibly do this.

                      Now that's me speaking as objectively as I can, but I honestly think I am talking objectively to the wrong person... because no offense intended but you are quite biased towards Manny.

                      Oh and sorry for the huge rant, chances are people wont be arsed to read it all.
                      What you have there is a "Smoke Screen" tactic. Mayweather is using that to divert attention from their true intention which is to tarnish the Pacman's reputation by "Smear Campaign." I'm not fooled by Mayweather and Associates at all. 'Lil Floyd has never demanded such tests EVER and for you to imply that he's doing this NOW to clean up this sport is indeed very reckless of you to speak of.

                      Spacey, I know that you fully support the Pretty Boy but it's not a secret that the Mayweather's have issues that aren't well accepted by people. Their callous actions in this case only exemplifies the fact that Floyd Jr. is not worthy of the praise and respect that would normally accompany a high profile Boxing Champion. JAT

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