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  • #51
    Originally posted by ace2ace234 View Post
    explain to me how they are tougher and more stringent?
    If your gona say they have blood test's,o.k so lets run with that the only thing blood test's detect that urine cant is HGH(this is debateable in itself but im not 100% on it so i wont disagree or argue it.)
    HGH is USELESS to a boxer...I dont know how many times I have to say this it is only useful if you take other ped's with it...
    HGH is NOT useless to a boxer. How can you say that? Just because Victor Conte touts EPO (which he basically introduced to fighters) doesn't mean HGH is useless. At all. HGH is made naturally through the body--how can it be USELESS? LOL. And furthermore, this same Conte says blood testing is much better to detect blood doping. Even further, random testing is very important. Not knowing when the test will take place makes it tougher to cheat, right?

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    • #52
      Originally posted by jekbu View Post
      you have a dislocated finger, do u need a more stringent test or an xray is suffice?

      they already knew that pac dont want those random needles. why not settle for second best if it will have a high probability of nailing him if he's cheating?

      just make the fight push thru!
      1. How do you know it's dislocated?

      2. What do doctors use MRIs for?

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      • #53
        Originally posted by ace2ace234 View Post
        explain to me how they are tougher and more stringent?
        If your gona say they have blood test's,o.k so lets run with that the only thing blood test's detect that urine cant is HGH(this is debateable in itself but im not 100% on it so i wont disagree or argue it.)
        HGH is USELESS to a boxer...I dont know how many times I have to say this it is only useful if you take other ped's with it...
        DC: Urine and blood tests and the menu of things they test for should be as full as it can be and even fuller than that. Some broader wave. Tests need to be random and unannounced. Keep in mind we now have a Growth Hormone test but it hasn’t caught anybody. People are not terribly excited about a GH test that doesn’t catch anybody. They don’t know whether that is because the test is not good or because no one is using Growth Hormone. Well, no one believes that no one is using Growth Hormone. You have to go after the blood. The things you are after in the blood are Erythrpoeitin (EPO) and the whole family of drugs like it. You have to use blood tests if you want to detect Mircera and HGH.

        http://www.********boxing.com/news.php?p=22387&more=1

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        • #54
          Originally posted by ace2ace234 View Post
          explain to me how they are tougher and more stringent?
          If your gona say they have blood test's,o.k so lets run with that the only thing blood test's detect that urine cant is HGH(this is debateable in itself but im not 100% on it so i wont disagree or argue it.)
          HGH is USELESS to a boxer...I dont know how many times I have to say this it is only useful if you take other ped's with it...
          Don't bother. These people have their minds made up and no matter how exhaustive of testing Pac goes through they'll always think he's dirty.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
            HGH is NOT useless to a boxer. How can you say that? Just because Victor Conte touts EPO (which he basically introduced to fighters) doesn't mean HGH is useless. At all. HGH is made naturally through the body--how can it be USELESS? LOL. And furthermore, this same Conte says blood testing is much better to detect blood doping. Even further, random testing is very important. Not knowing when the test will take place makes it tougher to cheat, right?
            I completely agree with random testing but trust me HGH is only benificial if used with other ped's,HGH would benifit a basketball/baseball player a person who play's weekly/over the course of a season where fast recovery is needed....
            If pac was taking HGH on his own he would have to be pretty ******.....add in other ped's like epo with it and its becomes very benificial but on its own its not...
            imdazed im not getting into an argument Im just sick and tired of all this and just want the fight to made and the winner to get full credit with no excuse's.....
            I have experience with drug testing I have worked in the envoirment and I cant for the life of me see the plus side to taking HGH on its own.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Six Shooter View Post
              DC: Urine and blood tests and the menu of things they test for should be as full as it can be and even fuller than that. Some broader wave. Tests need to be random and unannounced. Keep in mind we now have a Growth Hormone test but it hasn’t caught anybody. People are not terribly excited about a GH test that doesn’t catch anybody. They don’t know whether that is because the test is not good or because no one is using Growth Hormone. Well, no one believes that no one is using Growth Hormone. You have to go after the blood. The things you are after in the blood are Erythrpoeitin (EPO) and the whole family of drugs like it. You have to use blood tests if you want to detect Mircera and HGH.

              http://www.********boxing.com/news.php?p=22387&more=1
              Epo can be detected by a urine test......

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              • #57
                Originally posted by ace2ace234 View Post
                I completely agree with random testing but trust me HGH is only benificial if used with other ped's,HGH would benifit a basketball/baseball player a person who play's weekly/over the course of a season where fast recovery is needed....
                If pac was taking HGH on his own he would have to be pretty ******.....add in other ped's like epo with it and its becomes very benificial but on its own its not...
                imdazed im not getting into an argument Im just sick and tired of all this and just want the fight to made and the winner to get full credit with no excuse's.....
                I have experience with drug testing I have worked in the envoirment and I cant for the life of me see the plus side to taking HGH on its own.
                I want the fight to be made as well. Fans are fans. Like in all other sports - do we really care that our athletes are juicing? No. We just want the fight made.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Mr. Copycat View Post
                  Pacquiao tested negative for illegal drugs!
                  He would be an IDIOT to fail a SCHEDULED TEST.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Six Shooter View Post
                    DC: Urine and blood tests and the menu of things they test for should be as full as it can be and even fuller than that. Some broader wave. Tests need to be random and unannounced. Keep in mind we now have a Growth Hormone test but it hasn’t caught anybody. People are not terribly excited about a GH test that doesn’t catch anybody. They don’t know whether that is because the test is not good or because no one is using Growth Hormone. Well, no one believes that no one is using Growth Hormone. You have to go after the blood. The things you are after in the blood are Erythrpoeitin (EPO) and the whole family of drugs like it. You have to use blood tests if you want to detect Mircera and HGH.
                    EPO requires lab draws to monitor Hbg/Hct levels.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Mr. Copycat View Post
                      Pacquiao tested negative for illegal drugs!


                      English, mother****er, do you speak it?

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