Was Duran On Steroids?

[JMM_135_#1]

facts? i've laid out weights and percentages. where are your facts? all i see are subjective opinions, not objective data.


here's more objective data on pac.

2006 | 129 | Morales III | Ring Weight: 144 | Rehydration: 15 lbs
2007 | 130 | Barrera II | Ring Weight: 144 | Rehydration: 14lbs
2008 | 129 | Marquez II | Ring Weight: 145 | Rehydration: 16lbs
2008 | 134½ | Diaz | Ring Weight: 147 | Rehydration: 12½ lbs
2008 | 142 | De La Hoya | Ring Weight: 148.5 | Rehydration: 6½ lbs
2009 | 138 | Hatton | Ring Weight: 148 | Rehydration: 10 lbs
2009 | 144 | Cotto | Ring Weight: 149 | Rehydration: 5 lbs

144-149 = 5 lbs difference in three years.

weight means nothing !

how many times do i have to say this, steroids arent a magic drug they dont just make you get big instantly, unless your eating and training to get bigger it doesnt happen by accident

[DarthVoid]

weight means nothing !

how many times do i have to say this, steroids arent a magic drug they dont just make you get big instantly, unless your eating and training to get bigger it doesnt happen by accident

weight means nothing? says who? you?

isnt the whole gist of the steroids debate about pac moving up in weight classes and continuing to stamp his class on his opponents?

if pacquiao stayed at 130-135, would the steroids claim surface?

of course not.

[JMM_135_#1]

weight means nothing? says who? you?

isnt the whole gist of the steroids debate about pac moving up in weight classes and continuing to stamp his class on his opponents?

if pacquiao stayed at 130-135, would the steroids claim surface?

of course not.

this is the only part that is really important

the fact his weight has increased by whatever amount is irrelevant, its the fact that he his dominating bigger opponents not that he has got any bigger himself

[cherokee]

they're all on steroids! Every bloody one of em, dead, alive, retired and active boxers! All them lot!

Because according to *****s and mayweathers the Athletic Commissions are useless and inefficient and unable to catch roiders!

Every boxer in the planet, if we follow *****s' logic, will have asterisk after their names! Good for boxing aint it! Well done Floyd!

[DarthVoid]

this is the only part that is really important

the fact his weight has increased by whatever amount is irrelevant, its the fact that he his dominating bigger opponents not that he has got any bigger himself

those are opinion, not facts.

statements of facts > opinion.

until you present factual, measurable, and objective data to support your cause, i wont reply to any more of your posts to keep this thread sane and grounded.

[JMM_135_#1]

those are opinion, not facts.

statements of facts > opinion.

until you present factual, measurable, and objective data to support your cause, i wont reply to any more of your posts to keep this thread sane and grounded.

your facts being pac put on 5lb over 3 years.... wow!, how do you factual use this as evidence that this proves he is not on ped's show me some proof that steroids instantly increase your weight in the way you seem to think

[JAB5239]

Duran juiced, its a FACT. Floyd sr said so.