Here It Is: Team Pac Wrong - Team Mayweather Correct

[Boss Don]

wheres your proof? oh i forgot you have none.

pac had tests before the morales fight and he lost, thats proof.

Pacquiao lost because he got his ass whooped simple as that not because of any blood tests

i mean i cant beleave a true warrior like Pac has so many exuses for why he lost

[Pullcounter]

I'm not implying anything and the onus is on your initial statement. Which was, if it was good enough to catch those guys, why isn't it good enough period.

To which I say, do you believe that all (save Toney) used roids only once?

no the burden of proof is on you. you have to prove that these boxers used PEDs multiple times.

[Lady Fan]

This is from Margarot Goodman herself, if you cats dont know then you really dont watch boxing. She has served as Ringside Physician in many fights and worked for the Nevada Commission, so Pac Fans, after you read this, dont give us any more Pac excuses, or crap about how the current Nevada drug testing procedure is fine.


http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/drgpeds010410.html

READ THIS AND LEARN:


This article is based on this (facts)

http://www.anabolicsteroidsguide.com/steroid-profiles/hgh.html

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USADA Prefers Out Of Competition Testing

Said J. Sahi, M.D., tells Philboxing why the USADA prefers out-of-competition testing:


A random blood testing for the synthetic Human Growth Hormone, Somatropin, within the training period leading to the fight is NOT an effective way to catch cheaters especially if it is done within the thirty days before the fight. The USADA knows this. As a matter of fact, Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA said that to be most effective, athletes would have to be subjected to random testing while out of competition. If it will be done for this fight, it would be during competition since the fighters are scheduled to start training in early January.

No athletes, trainers and coaches in their right mind will use this drug few days or weeks before the competition. It is useless because it will take several weeks to months to have the desired results. That is why this test is recommended to be used when athletes are out of competition.

It is not simple to use HGH for few weeks before the fight. It is troublesome. When using HGH the body also needs more thyroid hormones, insulin, corticosteroids, gonadotropins, estrogens and what a surprise androgens and anabolic steroids. This is also the reason why HGH, when taken alone, is considerably less effective and can only reach its optimum effect by the additive intake of steroids, thyorid hormones, and insulin, in particular.1 These other drugs can be detected by the urine test then NSAC urine test is already enough for this.
There are three hormones which are needed at the same time in order to allow for maximum anabolic effect. These are HGH, insulin, and an LT-3 thyroid hormone, such as, for example, Cytomel. Only then can the liver produce and release an optimal amount of somatomedin and insulin-like growth factors. This anabolic effect can be further enhanced by taking a substance with an anticatabolic effect. These substances are-everybody should probably know by now-anabolic/androgenic steroids or Clenbuterol. Then a synergetic effect takes place. 2

Blood sugar and thyroid hormone should also be monitored while using HCG. It is really difficult and inconvenient to have all these stuffs during competition especially when you have only few weeks before the fight. That is why, this is being done during out of competition when athletes have several months prior to the competition or fight.

http://philboxing.com/news/story-31983.html

[Pullcounter]

Pacquiao lost because he got his ass whooped simple as that not because of any blood tests

i mean i cant beleave a true warrior like Pac has so many exuses for why he lost

of course pac lost because morales was the better man, but in pac's mind he lost because of the blood that was drawn. therefore, in his mind, if his blood gets drawn again while he's cutting weight he will not believe he's 100%. why would you want pac to fight floyd when he's not 100%.

does that excuse pac from the blood tests? no, but that's for the NSAC to decide, not team mayweather.

This guy will defend Pac to the very end, even with isotoner gloves and Bruno Magli shoes.

you don't even know me.

He especially hates that Mayweather is right, me personally I want to no Pac is/is not cheating more than just making the fight. Ethics are more important than money right about now.

lols... you get no cut off of floyd, why would you care about money at all?

I think he just hates Floyd. But seriously, most of us can't stand him. Who cares?

ditto. right back at ya

BTW, great article. Thanks for the link. Instead of people saying "it's ok if the NSAC says it's ok," they should be asking themselves why wouldn't a fighter want to step up?

cause it will effect pac psychologically and mentally. why would you want pac to fight if he doesn't think he can win?

[fcastro1]

Pacquiao lost because he got his ass whooped simple as that not because of any blood tests

i mean i cant beleave a true warrior like Pac has so many exuses for why he lost

floyds a true warrior asking for olympic style tests without proof and isn't apart of the commission rules.

floyds a warrior for not fighting mosley because of 5 losses, or p williams because of his height.

why is their a witchhunt against pac whan the known ducker gets a pass with his baseless demands.

[Calilloyd]

if the urine test was good enough to catch them once, why wouldn't it be good enough to catch them multiple times?

Different types of steroids. Some can not be detected in urine only.

[Gutz]

Mayweather Sr. Haymon, Ellerbe, Roger, etc...they have a right to protect their fighter and it is their job to protect their fighter. They suspect that Pac is on the juice and guess what, everything that has come out (especailly Team Pacquiao's reaction) has shown that there is a good chance that they are Right.

Why are you binging up Haymon.. He not trying to protect Berto right now..

Why isnt Mosly doing these test?

[Pullcounter]

Different types of steroids. Some can not be detected in urine only.

READ THIS AND LEARN:


This article is based on this (facts)
http://www.anabolicsteroidsguide.com...files/hgh.html

Quote:
USADA Prefers Out Of Competition Testing

Said J. Sahi, M.D., tells Philboxing why the USADA prefers out-of-competition testing:


A random blood testing for the synthetic Human Growth Hormone, Somatropin, within the training period leading to the fight is NOT an effective way to catch cheaters especially if it is done within the thirty days before the fight. The USADA knows this. As a matter of fact, Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA said that to be most effective, athletes would have to be subjected to random testing while out of competition. If it will be done for this fight, it would be during competition since the fighters are scheduled to start training in early January.

No athletes, trainers and coaches in their right mind will use this drug few days or weeks before the competition. It is useless because it will take several weeks to months to have the desired results. That is why this test is recommended to be used when athletes are out of competition.

It is not simple to use HGH for few weeks before the fight. It is troublesome. When using HGH the body also needs more thyroid hormones, insulin, corticosteroids, gonadotropins, estrogens and what a surprise androgens and anabolic steroids. This is also the reason why HGH, when taken alone, is considerably less effective and can only reach its optimum effect by the additive intake of steroids, thyorid hormones, and insulin, in particular.1 These other drugs can be detected by the urine test then NSAC urine test is already enough for this.
There are three hormones which are needed at the same time in order to allow for maximum anabolic effect. These are HGH, insulin, and an LT-3 thyroid hormone, such as, for example, Cytomel. Only then can the liver produce and release an optimal amount of somatomedin and insulin-like growth factors. This anabolic effect can be further enhanced by taking a substance with an anticatabolic effect. These substances are-everybody should probably know by now-anabolic/androgenic steroids or Clenbuterol. Then a synergetic effect takes place. 2

Blood sugar and thyroid hormone should also be monitored while using HCG. It is really difficult and inconvenient to have all these stuffs during competition especially when you have only few weeks before the fight. That is why, this is being done during out of competition when athletes have several months prior to the competition or fight.

http://philboxing.com/news/story-31983.html

[Gutz]

READ THIS AND LEARN:


This article is based on this (facts)

http://www.anabolicsteroidsguide.com/steroid-profiles/hgh.html

Quote:
USADA Prefers Out Of Competition Testing

Said J. Sahi, M.D., tells Philboxing why the USADA prefers out-of-competition testing:


A random blood testing for the synthetic Human Growth Hormone, Somatropin, within the training period leading to the fight is NOT an effective way to catch cheaters especially if it is done within the thirty days before the fight. The USADA knows this. As a matter of fact, Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA said that to be most effective, athletes would have to be subjected to random testing while out of competition. If it will be done for this fight, it would be during competition since the fighters are scheduled to start training in early January.

No athletes, trainers and coaches in their right mind will use this drug few days or weeks before the competition. It is useless because it will take several weeks to months to have the desired results. That is why this test is recommended to be used when athletes are out of competition.

It is not simple to use HGH for few weeks before the fight. It is troublesome. When using HGH the body also needs more thyroid hormones, insulin, corticosteroids, gonadotropins, estrogens and what a surprise androgens and anabolic steroids. This is also the reason why HGH, when taken alone, is considerably less effective and can only reach its optimum effect by the additive intake of steroids, thyorid hormones, and insulin, in particular.1 These other drugs can be detected by the urine test then NSAC urine test is already enough for this.
There are three hormones which are needed at the same time in order to allow for maximum anabolic effect. These are HGH, insulin, and an LT-3 thyroid hormone, such as, for example, Cytomel. Only then can the liver produce and release an optimal amount of somatomedin and insulin-like growth factors. This anabolic effect can be further enhanced by taking a substance with an anticatabolic effect. These substances are-everybody should probably know by now-anabolic/androgenic steroids or Clenbuterol. Then a synergetic effect takes place. 2

Blood sugar and thyroid hormone should also be monitored while using HCG. It is really difficult and inconvenient to have all these stuffs during competition especially when you have only few weeks before the fight. That is why, this is being done during out of competition when athletes have several months prior to the competition or fight.

http://philboxing.com/news/story-31983.html

***** duck this tread .. you wont get a answer.

[jrv1932]

no the burden of proof is on you. you have to prove that these boxers used PEDs multiple times.

Roy and toney did not test positive in nevada. Those were other states. Mosley was on one of the drugs in the debate, epo, admittedly and passed nevadas urine test.