Comments Thread For: Yusaf Mack Will Retire Glen Johnson, Says Tandy

[Hitman932]

no...i think your underrating mack heavily..he was ahead on all three scorecards against librado andrade before getting stopped in the 7th..and has defeated top ten light heavy chris henry who i think is bigger, stronger and hits harder than glen johnson. johnson is DONE. im telling you he is going to get beat convincingly by mack. i also think the mack would be lucky to win a round aganst dawson is way exaggerrated.

Of course he was ahead on the scorecards against Andrade, everyone always is until he catches up with him. Thing is that most fighters can hold out longer than 6 rounds before falling apart like Mack did.

Henry may be bigger and stronger than Johnson but this is a fight. I'll take the guy with the skill in this one, Mack will never hit him clean enough to do serious damage.

Saying Johnson is DONE is just foolish, hell they both fought Daniel Judah in the past 18 months and it was Johnson who shut him out the entire night and Mack who tired late and lost rounds.

And you can think it is exaggerated all you want but Mack would get his ass kicked all night by Dawson, if he won a round it would be a mercy round from the judges.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you are either from New York or Philly and are greatly overrating Mack.

[Hitman932]

Those cards for the second time were a joke and you know it.

The point is only that Mack can fight Dawson 10 times with 30 different judges and never muster even a single 113-115 card against Dawson.

[Tmann400]

Of course he was ahead on the scorecards against Andrade, everyone always is until he catches up with him. Thing is that most fighters can hold out longer than 6 rounds before falling apart like Mack did.

Henry may be bigger and stronger than Johnson but this is a fight. I'll take the guy with the skill in this one, Mack will never hit him clean enough to do serious damage.

Saying Johnson is DONE is just foolish, hell they both fought Daniel Judah in the past 18 months and it was Johnson who shut him out the entire night and Mack who tired late and lost rounds.

And you can think it is exaggerated all you want but Mack would get his ass kicked all night by Dawson, if he won a round it would be a mercy round from the judges.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you are either from New York or Philly and are greatly overrating Mack.

im a philly boy but ive nver been a fan of mack....i just call fights how i see them..and yes johnson is a 64 fight veteran who is almost or already maybe 41 years old, and hes going in with a quick, powerful, fast young guy. mack's stamina isnt as bad as it once was since he moved up to 175. im telling you man johnson is done and it will show just like it did against dawson and also against judah whether you think johnson swept him or not mack looked more impressive bacause johnson was getting hit all night by judah which is why most people were picking dawson to win by a more convinging decision in the rematch. johnsons age has caught up with him now and he is just going to be to slow for mack, trust me.

[Guest]

i will also add though that mack will only go so far...he will not beat cloud..mack is somewhat chinny and alls it takes is one right hand from cloud and its a wrap..cloud has KYTFO power with everything he throws..if mack gets past johnson i see mack-cloud playing out like this..mack comes out circling and cloud is patient looking for the right oppurtiunity to let a combination go..by about the 3rd round mack starts to open up and BAM! he gets caught with a cloud counter right hand and hes out completely cold..cloud KO 3

I've saw Cloud twice and he hasn't even come close to knocking good competition out, so I don't think his power is all that.

It's pretty good, not mind numbing or anything.

[Hitman932]

I've saw Cloud twice and he hasn't even come close to knocking good competition out, so I don't think his power is all that.

I'm not sure how that's possible as Cloud has knocked out every opponent he has faced aside from Woods dating all the way back to when he fought 4 rounders.

[Tmann400]

I've saw Cloud twice and he hasn't even come close to knocking good competition out, so I don't think his power is all that.

It's pretty good, not mind numbing or anything.

well he had gonzalez out on his feet the ENTIRE fight literally and then the fight finally got stopped in the tenth round. and against woods he had woods out on his feet a few times which even a prime roy jones wasnt even able to do...soooo i dont see where your getting at here?

[Tmann400]

I'm not sure how that's possible as Cloud has knocked out every opponent he has faced aside from Woods dating all the way back to when he fought 4 rounders.

somethingi agree with you on finally lol. i dont know aht your talking about jreckoning....?

[Guest]

somethingi agree with you on finally lol. i dont know aht your talking about jreckoning....?

I was at the Gonzales fight sitting sitting ringside at the Aragon, and he hit him with everything and still couldn't ko him he had to settle for the tko.

I don't count the Mike Woods of the world. and he certainly didn't at any point have Clinton Woods out.

He's not a one hitter quitter, he's an accumulation guy and when he stepped up in comp, that was proven.

I am not saying he's featherfisted, but I think you are overrating his power.

[Tmann400]

I was at the Gonzales fight sitting sitting ringside at the Aragon, and he hit him with everything and still couldn't ko him he had to settle for the tko.

I don't count the Mike Woods of the world. and he certainly didn't at any point have Clinton Woods out.

He's not a one hitter quitter, he's an accumulation guy and when he stepped up in comp, that was proven.

I am not saying he's featherfisted, but I think you are overrating his power.

gonzalez and woods are known for having rock solid chinc...dawson is more skilled but not as physically durable as gonzalez or woods so i think his power will come to light more against the likes of pascal, mack dawsdon etc. if he caught any of the fighters i just mentioned with a quarter of the stuff he landed on woods and gonzalez they would be put to sleep, and thats a fact jack.

[Guest]

gonzalez and woods are known for having rock solid chinc...dawson is more skilled but not as physically durable as gonzalez or woods so i think his power will come to light more against the likes of pascal, mack dawsdon etc. if he caught any of the fighters i just mentioned with a quarter of the stuff he landed on woods and gonzalez they would be put to sleep, and thats a fact jack.

Maybe. But Woods and Gonzales were at the tail end of their careers.
It'd definitely get more interesting when he's dealing with the taller younger guys like Dawson and Pascal. I'd love to see Cloud way more active.

I agree Mack can be rocked, but he's fought well lately.