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  • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
    I think Cotto before Margarito at 147 would have killed Manny.
    Didn't know how bad Cotto was mentally affected. I mean,
    in all fairness I wish they would have fought at 147 instead
    of 145. I think Manny still would have won because Cotto's
    corner was the cause of his demise in a lot of ways but
    atleast we would have seen a different Cotto perhaps.


    No disrespect to Cotto or his fans......but he is shot. He copped a once in a lifetime beating against Margarito (prob with loaded gloves). He didn't look great against Jennings and despite the scorecards he lost to Clottey and took alot of punishment in that fight too.

    Roach knew he was ready to be "cherry" picked. I believe his exact words were "Cotto is not the same fighter since the Margarito fight" Couple that with a catchweight of 145 and it's no suprise Pac won....even though it was impressive.

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    • Originally posted by Soir View Post
      Okay they crossed a line here.



      So no ones allowed to question why a macho fighter is afraid of needles? We are all supposed to bite our tounges and pretend that Team Pacs weird excuses for not wanting testing were sound? We are no longer allowed to speculate or form opinions?

      F#K Bob Arum and F#k this fight!! Id rather see Mosley/Mayweather anyway.
      Floyd will duck legit WW! He will rather chose MAtthew Hatton.. or Bobby Pacquiao to preserve his "0 lose" record!

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      • Originally posted by check hook View Post
        No disrespect to Cotto or his fans......but he is shot. He copped a once in a lifetime beating against Margarito (prob with loaded gloves). He didn't look great against Jennings and despite the scorecards he lost to Clottey and took alot of punishment in that fight too.

        Roach knew he was ready to be "cherry" picked. I believe his exact words were "Cotto is not the same fighter since the Margarito fight" Couple that with a catchweight of 145 and it's no suprise Pac won....even though it was impressive.
        I am far from a Cotto fan but he had a lil run before Margarito.
        He was a good fighter but could have been great if he cared more
        about what he wanted or thought instead of always leaving it up
        to Bob Arum and Top Rank and you nailed it right on the nose
        and that's why I darkened and high lighted that specific text.

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        • Originally posted by micky1971 View Post
          Fact: This little fellah only two or three years ago could not dispatch marco barrera with particular ease in their 2nd fight.
          Fact: Same with marquez in second fight.
          Fact: All of a sudden he has exploded in weight and wiped the floor with the top fighters in his first fights at their respective weights.
          Fact: "the" boxing fraternity is atleast a little su****ious of this achievement regardless of the nice man and all that he is.
          Fact: He had a blood test with our own ricky hatton (televised) with no mentioned problem of energy drain or superstition and looked what happened.
          Since the initial "opinon" voiced by daddy mayweather others have followed but at distance.
          Freddie roach remained pretty quiet about this, funny....when you consider he would usually be at daddy mayweathers throat for having such an "opinion".
          Final fact: It has been clinically proven that the measure of blood taken in a sample would not be enough to weaken anybody especially somebody in such supreme phisical condition unless......there were an existing health threat in some way to the individual in which case.....he would not be training or getting involved in a boxing match with people whom are naturally bigger than him but yet, up until now he still gets in a first fight at the weight with the bigger men who are the top fighters at the weight and smashes them to pieces and is scared of needles!?!? With tattoos!!?!?! Or superstitious!?!?!?! Ive never heard of such inexcusable drivel in all my life.
          He has no grounds to argue nor make an argument with these feeble reasons where on the the other hand, there is all the proof you need other than the actual blood tests themselves to suggest(strongly) he has/is or will be taking illegal supplements to make him tougher/bigger/stronger/faster...etc.
          Steve austin never took drugs but did have bionic arms and legs.
          Manny does not have bionic limbs.
          Just make with the tests and stop crying!
          One more thing, hes running for congress isnt he? Wants to be a politician eh? Dont you have to be a good(a really good) liar to be a succesful politician?
          Suckers.
          would you agree that urine test is more efficient than blood test to detect for PED/steroid/other drugs?

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          • Originally posted by fcastro1 View Post
            pac stayed at 135 for 1 fight which is hardly enough time to duck anyone, while floyd has been at welter for years and fought no one. delahoya was the one that pursued pac and he was the one that agreed to fight at 147. hatton was at his natural weight class and came of a victory over paulie and pac demolished both fighters better than floyd. cotto is one of the best welters around who floyd ducked. cotto has a better resume than floyd at welter.

            pac will fight mosley because he is a warrior, pac cant fight cotto and mosley the same time, but floyd will duck the best and fight bums to a boring decision leaving all the boxing fans wondering why they bought into the ppv hype to watch a dreadfull fight.

            i know why floyd wants to duck pac, if you had to face a mini tyson you would have second thoughts too. Pac looks sensational knocking fighters floyd has faced or ducked and wants an advantage in the fight or duck it.

            Floyd is gonna get Pac real soon hopefully Team Pac wont weazle their way out of this one. Pac had a choice between Mosley and Cotto and he chose the more battleworn and everybody knows that. It's funny Pac didnt look so sensational after that last Marquez fight when he declared he didnt want another fight with Marquez go pick on somebody else,lol. Fact is Pac is looking his most sensational right now,wow. Almost 20 pounds heavier and not only is he winning but he is walking through the punches of bigger, stronger men w/o flinching which is why most people who've been watching boxing for years are saying hey, something aint right here. We've seen some of the greatest fighters of all time and NONE were able to carry, their speed, power (matter of fact gain more power) and endurance up 10 pounds let lone 20. PBF is gonna spank Pac's ass for sure you can count on that he just wants to make sure he's fighting the real Manny not a juiced up little monkey.

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            • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
              I mean, I don't know why Manny is refusing to take the RANDOM
              tests? It looks guilty but we won't know until everything
              comes out in the wash. All I know is that I watched Pacquiao/Cotto
              again and must say that Pacquiao looked amazing beating Cotto
              from pillar to post BUT it just baffled me that Cotto usually drops
              naturally bigger guys with no problem with exception to Margarito
              BUT when he was ****ing on Pac, Manny hardly budged? All in all
              am sick of these bitchy negotiations that are going on and if we
              can't see Pac/Floyd, would be good to see a Floyd/Mosley for
              the majority of the titles at 147 because Andre Berto is most
              likely going to lose.
              Got a few question for you........

              1. How long does a random drug blood or urine test results are made public?

              2. Do you think a random blood test taken within 1 month before a fight will stop a fight from happening?

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              • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                the fight isn't happening... floyd has found a way to duck pac. he always finds a way to duck the best fighters
                Why do you lie man? WHO is the one not agreeing? WHO is the one that has the power to say yes I want to fight (not in court) and it happens?

                Pac wont AGREE to testing so the fight isn't being made. (and how is that Mayweather's fault again) Just because PAC doesn't agree doesn't mean Mayweather doesn't want to fight. STOP lying to yourself. How do you blame Pacs reasons for not agreeing on Mayweather? The logic you have is that if ANYTHING went south in the negotiations it would have and must have been Mayweather's fault right?

                Negations seemed to go quit easy until PAC said "NO". Not the other way around.

                People need to stop being so sensitive about this. This IS a contact sport. We don't have time for sensitive whinny vagina's like team Pac is being.
                Last edited by WESS; 01-04-2010, 10:25 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Gutz View Post
                  Hey Dumb ass..


                  where the Proof that Pac on Roids..




                  There more proof with that Floyd is gay then there is Pac is on roids on the net...
                  my proof is that he doesn't want to take the test if he was clean it shouldn't matter

                  and you say Floyd gay but i could care less about his sexuality i like his skills in ring and how he is real and always tells is like it is Pacquiao can't do that because he has to keep up that fake image

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                  • Originally posted by WESS View Post
                    Why do you lie man? WHO is the one not agreeing? WHO is the one that has the power to say yes I want to fight (not in court) and it happens?

                    Pac wont AGREE to testing so the fight isn't being made. (and how is that Mayweather's fault again) Just because PAC doesn't agree doesn't mean Mayweather doesn't want to fight. STOP lying to yourself. How do you blame Pacs reasons for not agreeing on Mayweather? The logic you have is that if ANYTHING went south in the negotiations it would have and must have been Mayweather's fault right?

                    This seemed to go quit easy until PAC said "NO". Not the other way around.

                    People need to stop being so sensitive about this. This IS a contact sport. We don't have time for sensitive whinny vagina's like team Pac is being.
                    Who was the one that did not agree to the standard testing that Floyd himself have been doing throughout his whole career and that have trusted, depended, and relied on. Floyd not agreeing to the standard testing is what keeping this fight from happening. Why should Floyd be able to change the rules and regulation that the Nevada commission have establish. Don't you think that if Floyd didn't try to change the rules that this fight would be signed already. Think hard about this and be honest, no BS.
                    Last edited by rommel357; 01-04-2010, 09:32 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by rommel357 View Post
                      Who was the one that did not agree to the standard testing that Floyd himself have been doing throughout his whole career and that have trusted, depended, and relied on. Floyd not agreeing to the standard testing is what keeping this fight from happening. Why should Floyd be able to change the rules and regulation that the Nevada commission have establish. Don't you think that if Floyd didn't try to change the rules that this fight would be signed already. Think hard about this and be honest, no BS.
                      No, he is asking for more in depth testing. Is the normal urine testing out of the picture??? Isn't the URINE being tested? Mayweather is simply asking for blood to be tested too. Am I correct?

                      All Pac has to do is say "YES" I will fight. Not anywhere has Floyd said "NO" I don't want to fight. Besides that we all know Floyd "money" Mayweather is all about MONEY. If you think he wont make any in this fight than you are truly ******ed. He wants this pay day...... He came out of retirement for it. Pac is just being a whinny little bytch that the sport doesn't need right now. We need a fight in the ring not in court.

                      I bet TNA IMPACT wrestling is getting more hype and TV numbers/ratings with the "return" of Hulk Hogan than boxing is right now. SAD shyt if you ask me. Pac needs to take this fight. All he has to do is say YES.

                      YES, its that simple.

                      Also Shannon Briggs and Marcus McGee wouldn't have a NC beside there name if there was MORE IN DEPTH testing. Especially at random. The QUESTIONS would be answered without a NC solution.
                      Last edited by WESS; 01-04-2010, 10:23 PM.

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