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  • #41
    Originally posted by Haglerwins View Post
    Defamation Per Se is different from a normal Defamation/Slander action. The burden of proof is actually on GB/MWP to prove with solid evidence Manny is on PEDS. All Manny has to provide are the accusations that ended up in print (and there are a couple) and the defendants have to come up with proof.

    You are 100% wrong. As the plaintiff, the burden is on Pac to PROVE that Mayweather Sr. KNEW his statement was false.

    And since Pac himself "doesnt know what he takes" according to his strength and conditioning coach, how could anyone PROVE that Floyd knew the statement was false.

    The lawsuit is bull**** and will go nowhere.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by micky1971 View Post
      Fact: This little fellah only two or three years ago could not dispatch marco barrera with particular ease in their 2nd fight.
      Fact: Same with marquez in second fight.
      Fact: All of a sudden he has exploded in weight and wiped the floor with the top fighters in his first fights at their respective weights.
      Fact: "the" boxing fraternity is atleast a little su****ious of this achievement regardless of the nice man and all that he is.
      Fact: He had a blood test with our own ricky hatton (televised) with no mentioned problem of energy drain or superstition and looked what happened.
      Since the initial "opinon" voiced by daddy mayweather others have followed but at distance.
      Freddie roach remained pretty quiet about this, funny....when you consider he would usually be at daddy mayweathers throat for having such an "opinion".
      Final fact: It has been clinically proven that the measure of blood taken in a sample would not be enough to weaken anybody especially somebody in such supreme phisical condition unless......there were an existing health threat in some way to the individual in which case.....he would not be training or getting involved in a boxing match with people whom are naturally bigger than him but yet, up until now he still gets in a first fight at the weight with the bigger men who are the top fighters at the weight and smashes them to pieces and is scared of needles!?!? With tattoos!!?!?! Or superstitious!?!?!?! Ive never heard of such inexcusable drivel in all my life.
      He has no grounds to argue nor make an argument with these feeble reasons where on the the other hand, there is all the proof you need other than the actual blood tests themselves to suggest(strongly) he has/is or will be taking illegal supplements to make him tougher/bigger/stronger/faster...etc.
      Steve austin never took drugs but did have bionic arms and legs.
      Manny does not have bionic limbs.
      Just make with the tests and stop crying!
      One more thing, hes running for congress isnt he? Wants to be a politician eh? Dont you have to be a good(a really good) liar to be a succesful politician?
      Suckers.
      the fact boxer grows even your man mayweather it goes to manny too so 's what's your problem you can't accept your man is 2 and pacman 1 now so the only way is fight him no random testing but testing goes to NSAC if mayweather not happy they NSAC then MJL, NBA NFL testing is the way since they both proffesional that is not USADA

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      • #43
        Originally posted by micky1971 View Post
        Fact: This little fellah only two or three years ago could not dispatch marco barrera with particular ease in their 2nd fight.
        Fact: Same with marquez in second fight.
        Fact: All of a sudden he has exploded in weight and wiped the floor with the top fighters in his first fights at their respective weights.
        Fact: "the" boxing fraternity is atleast a little su****ious of this achievement regardless of the nice man and all that he is.
        Fact: He had a blood test with our own ricky hatton (televised) with no mentioned problem of energy drain or superstition and looked what happened.
        Since the initial "opinon" voiced by daddy mayweather others have followed but at distance.
        Freddie roach remained pretty quiet about this, funny....when you consider he would usually be at daddy mayweathers throat for having such an "opinion".
        Final fact: It has been clinically proven that the measure of blood taken in a sample would not be enough to weaken anybody especially somebody in such supreme phisical condition unless......there were an existing health threat in some way to the individual in which case.....he would not be training or getting involved in a boxing match with people whom are naturally bigger than him but yet, up until now he still gets in a first fight at the weight with the bigger men who are the top fighters at the weight and smashes them to pieces and is scared of needles!?!? With tattoos!!?!?! Or superstitious!?!?!?! Ive never heard of such inexcusable drivel in all my life.
        He has no grounds to argue nor make an argument with these feeble reasons where on the the other hand, there is all the proof you need other than the actual blood tests themselves to suggest(strongly) he has/is or will be taking illegal supplements to make him tougher/bigger/stronger/faster...etc.
        Steve austin never took drugs but did have bionic arms and legs.
        Manny does not have bionic limbs.
        Just make with the tests and stop crying!
        One more thing, hes running for congress isnt he? Wants to be a politician eh? Dont you have to be a good(a really good) liar to be a succesful politician?
        Suckers.
        [IMG]http://holycrapthatsfunny.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/****-or-gtfo.jpg[/IMG]

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        • #44
          Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
          As BoxingScene.com had previously reported on Sunday, Top Rank and Golden Boy Promotions plan to mediate their issues on Tuesday before retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein in Santa Monica, California, in an effort to save the Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Manny Pacquiao mega-fight and resolve some other issues. A few years ago Weinsten helped settle their heated dispute over which company had the promotional rights to Pacquiao. While not confirmed, Pacquiao's pending lawsuit will be another topic both sides will discuss. [Click Here To Read More]
          Pitiful just pitiful.

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          • #45
            the fight is off then. us boxing fans hav to suffer

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            • #46
              Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
              You are 100% wrong. As the plaintiff, the burden is on Pac to PROVE that Mayweather Sr. KNEW his statement was false.

              And since Pac himself "doesnt know what he takes" according to his strength and conditioning coach, how could anyone PROVE that Floyd knew the statement was false.

              The lawsuit is bull**** and will go nowhere.

              Apparently this is not the case with Defamation Per Se. I got checked in my own thread. >_<

              http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...5&postcount=36

              Defamation Per Se

              Most jurisdictions recognize "per se" defamation, in which the allegations made by the defendant are presumed to cause damage to the plaintiff. Normally in personal injury litigation, including actions for defamation, the plaintiff bears the burden of proof. Within the context of defamation, that means that the plaintiff must establish by a preponderance of the evidence that the defendant's statements were false, and that the defendant knew or reasonably should have known them to be false at the time the statements were made. Defamation per se provides a significant exception to that rule: Typically, where the statements made by the defendant constitute defamation per se, the defendant has the burden of proving that the allegations are true.

              Typically, the following may consititute defamation per se:

              Allegations that an unmarried person is unchaste;
              Allegations that a person is infected with a sexually transmitted disease;
              Attacks on a person's professional character or standing;
              Allegations that the person has committed a crime of moral turpitude;
              Last edited by Haglerwins; 01-04-2010, 06:57 AM.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
                You are 100% wrong. As the plaintiff, the burden is on Pac to PROVE that Mayweather Sr. KNEW his statement was false.

                And since Pac himself "doesnt know what he takes" according to his strength and conditioning coach, how could anyone PROVE that Floyd knew the statement was false.

                The lawsuit is bull**** and will go nowhere.
                No, YOU are 100% wrong. The only thing PAC has to prove is that Mayweather made his statement WITHOUT ANY BASIS.

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                • #48
                  Frankly, I think, more than the fear of needles or supersition, this is about Manny's pride. He doesnt want to be pushed around in negotiations. I remember the Hatton negotiations almost did not push through because of the absurd demand by Manny. I bet if Mayweather gave him 55% of the purse to do random blood testing, he would do it.

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                  • #49
                    to argue that the burden of proof lies on Pac is an ******ity of the highest order...so idiotic...i suggest that OnePunch has to do a little reading...

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
                      You are 100% wrong. As the plaintiff, the burden is on Pac to PROVE that Mayweather Sr. KNEW his statement was false.

                      And since Pac himself "doesnt know what he takes" according to his strength and conditioning coach, how could anyone PROVE that Floyd knew the statement was false.

                      The lawsuit is bull**** and will go nowhere.
                      WTF! So if i'm being accused of something whether it is legal or not, without any proof and baseless, i have to prove i'm innocent. Therefore anyone can accused anybody and that person is guilty until that person proves that he or she is innocent. It's like in the old days when a woman is accused of being a witch, she's automatically ****ed and get burned alive.

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