"The Bigger the LIE, the MORE people Believe It." - Joseph Goebbels

[Go Blue]

you know what's funny about you burner, not only do you have no credibility here in our tiny nsb world, but probably outside the world where you live in & in the boxing world. the fact that you have created 50 plus threads spamming NSB in one month with your bull**** agenda yet you have created a alt of aldo rain with a thread title **** hunter is beyond irony when you are the very essence of the type of propaganda joesph goebbels was part of.

You want to debate..feel free to call the b-scene radio show..thread on the front page

[jkaisen41]

the boxing world could have lived without a olympic test that has never been conducted in a professional prize fight. Mayweather has gone 40-0 & numerous fights in vegas without it, & pac has 10 plus fights headlined in vegas with out failing a drug test.

Why risk the richest fight in history with this now?

No, senior is not a **** but the accusation & subsequent comments, actions, & intention is right out of a political arena. The epitome of a smear campaign.



Early in his political career, the young Lyndon Baines Johnson served as a congressional aide to Rep. Richard Kleberg, the wealthy owner of the King Ranch who was elected to seven consecutive terms in the House of Representatives, at least in part because he often ran unopposed.

One year an upstart rival politician we'll call Joe Bob had the temerity to challenge Kleberg in the ********ic primary, resulting in the convocation of the Texas congressman's staff to plot an election strategy. Several ideas were kicked around before Kleberg himself came up with a brainstorm.

"Why don't we start a rumor that he [copulates with] sheep?" proposed the politician.

This was a bit over the top, even for Lyndon Johnson. The future president leapt to his feet and said, incredulously, "But you know Joe Bob don't [copulate with] sheep!"

"Yeah," replied the congressman, "but watch what happens when the son of a ***** has to stand up and deny it!"

I never said you said he is a ****... that was for the ****** Mo'fk under you...

Well, you guys simply missing the line here and that's what you guys don't even realize... I mean you can correct if I'm wrong but Mayweather fans talk **** but it is pretty harmless (they make BS threads like Who made more money or Floyd is the greatest... they don't hurt anyone) but Pacquiao fans make threads like Breaking News: Senior ****d a child... and you know of all ppl have to bring up Goebbels to bring your point across... what is next? You guys are simply over the line and you don't realize it... I ain't commented anything on Pac-May anymore because it went simply too far...

You seem to be a guy who can talk and be reasonable... is it really neccassary to bring up Goebbels to bring your point across dude? What the f is going on... what's next? Somebody singing a song about Hitler... somebody praising lines of freedom from Stalin... c'mon man... get your act together...

[DiLLiNGER]

Like i said before the TS is the biggest shmock on this forum..he put in a text which really relates to manny pacquiao..and its so gangsta to sue someone...the only one who has been talking is manny pacquiao..i havent heard one word from floyd..floyd agreed to his conditions and manny pacquiao cant accept one simple condition.

[cherokee]

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

[B]-Joseph Goebbels[/B


Who is Joseph Goebbels?


Adolf Hitler's right hand man & minister of Propaganda of the Third Reich.



This baseless steroid accusation against Pacquiao is right out of a political hatchman's handbook.

I agree but I had to laugh when you included a little backgrounder on who Joseph Goebbels is

Trying to educate the *****s are ya?

[DonTaseMeBrah]

I never said you said he is a ****... that was for the ****** Mo'fk under you...

Well, you guys simply missing the line here and that's what you guys don't even realize... I mean you can correct if I'm wrong but Mayweather fans talk **** but it is pretty harmless (they make BS threads like Who made more money or Floyd is the greatest... they don't hurt anyone) but Pacquiao fans make threads like Breaking News: Senior ****d a child... and you know of all ppl have to bring up Goebbels to bring your point across... what is next? You guys are simply over the line and you don't realize it... I ain't commented anything on Pac-May anymore because it went simply too far...

You seem to be a guy who can talk and be reasonable... is it really neccassary to bring up Goebbels to bring your point across dude? What the f is going on... what's next? Somebody singing a song about Hitler... somebody praising lines of freedom from Stalin... c'mon man... get your act together...

i brought up goebbles because his quote resonated with the situation. Look at what's happening right now to a guy who has never failed a drug test & there isint a single iota of evidence against him. He is being defamed & slandered. You dont have to wait for a judges ruling to agree on that one.

Is mayweather senior the boxing equivalent of jose canseco? NO.

Is mayweather sr. an expert in steroid use? NO.

is mayweather sr. a witness to pacquiao taking steroids? NO.

is mayweather sr. providing solid evidence that pacquiao took steroids? No.

is there a balco type lab who specializes in steroids that has accused pac of taking steroids? NO.

is there a boxing trainer a la brian mcnamee with bloody gauzes accusing steroid use vs pac? NO.

The **** propaganda came into play because of the quote & the fact that the worst kind of human beings play this type of game. Is mayweather sr. an exterminator of a race of people? of course not.

but he's also a ex convict who used to sell crack ******* & his family has a long laundry list of brushes with the law.

Like i said before the TS is the biggest shmock on this forum..he put in a text which really relates to manny pacquiao..and its so gangsta to sue someone...the only one who has been talking is manny pacquiao..i havent heard one word from floyd..floyd agreed to his conditions and manny pacquiao cant accept one simple condition.

they have compromised on everything.

pac wanted 60-40 his favor, fraud jr. wanted it in his favor= they compromised to 50-50.

top rank wanted wanted to take a look at dallas, golden boy said no lets take a look at staples = they compromised for las vegas mgm grand.

team pac wanted the weight closer to 140, team fraud jr. wanted it 154 & 10oz gloves = they compromised at 147 & 8oz gloves.

Why cant they compromise on the blood test? Pac is willing but Fraud jr. is not.

Dont get it twisted brah.

[jkaisen41]

i brought up goebbles because his quote resonated with the situation. Look at what's happening right now to a guy who has never failed a drug test & there isint a single iota of evidence against him. He is being defamed & slandered. You dont have to wait for a judges ruling to agree on that one.

Is mayweather senior the boxing equivalent of jose canseco? NO.

Is mayweather sr. an expert in steroid use? NO.

is mayweather sr. a witness to pacquiao taking steroids? NO.

is mayweather sr. providing solid evidence that pacquiao took steroids? No.

is there a balco type lab who specializes in steroids that has accused pac of taking steroids? NO.

is there a boxing trainer a la brian mcnamee with bloody gauzes accusing steroid use vs pac? NO.

The **** propaganda came into play because of the quote & the fact that the worst kind of human beings play this type of game. Is mayweather sr. an exterminator of a race of people? of course not.

but he's also a ex convict who used to sell crack ******* & his family has a long laundry list of brushes with the law.



they have compromised on everything.

pac wanted 60-40 his favor, fraud jr. wanted it in his favor= they compromised to 50-50.

top rank wanted wanted to take a look at dallas, golden boy said no lets take a look at staples = they compromised for las vegas mgm grand.

team pac wanted the weight closer to 140, team fraud jr. wanted it 154 & 10oz gloves = they compromised at 147 & 8oz gloves.

Why cant they compromise on the blood test? Pac is willing but Fraud jr. is not.

Dont get it twisted brah.

I'm a Floyd supporter... and I said it all along... if he does that out of real intention... I have no problem with that, if it is out of fun or whatever I'm absolutely not ok with it.

Is it proven? NO! And in my opinion Pacquiao is clean... but sometimes things don't have to be legit or proven that somebody else takes it as truth... if I now tell you Usain Bolt is doped what would be your answer? It is not proven he is clean and you are right... but tell me honestly... would you be surpised if he gets tested positive for doping down the stretch? It is human to question feats of humanity that never been reached before by a human. Does that make him guilty? No, of course not... should he sue... yes, he should... this is about his legacy and integrity... you have to... absolutely...

I agree with that... but I don't agree to put this thing down to a statement of Goebbels...

And if you say so that it is a campaign against him... do you honestly think that Senior (who isn't a promoter) says this if he wouldn't believe it? I mean it sounds like you think he is smart enough to start such a compaign but isn't smart to know that you can't get sued for saying lesser things and on top of that not even having proof? I personally believe that he believes that... and it is not a game... and after hearing all that and even other boxers who say something about it I believe that Junior believes it too... does that make Pacquiao guilty no, of course not... but I don't think they do it just out of fun and destroying his legacy... I really don't... and so I don't think that they belong into the category of human beings that Goebbels is in... do you get what I mean?

[Scott9945]

Like i said before the TS is the biggest shmock on this forum..he put in a text which really relates to manny pacquiao..and its so gangsta to sue someone...the only one who has been talking is manny pacquiao..i havent heard one word from floyd..floyd agreed to his conditions and manny pacquiao cant accept one simple condition.

Mayweather is demanding that Pacquiao do something never done for a fight in the US, and you call that a "simple condition"?

[DonTaseMeBrah]

I'm a Floyd supporter... and I said it all along... if he does that out of real intention... I have no problem with that, if it is out of fun or whatever I'm absolutely not ok with it.

Is it proven? NO! And in my opinion Pacquiao is clean... but sometimes things don't have to be legit or proven that somebody else takes it as truth... if I now tell you Usain Bolt is doped what would be your answer? It is not proven he is clean and you are right... but tell me honestly... would you be surpised if he gets tested positive for doping down the stretch? It is human to question feats of humanity that never been reached before by a human. Does that make him guilty? No, of course not... should he sue... yes, he should... this is about his legacy and integrity... you have to... absolutely...

I agree with that... but I don't agree to put this thing down to a statement of Goebbels...

And if you say so that it is a campaign against him... do you honestly think that Senior (who isn't a promoter) says this if he wouldn't believe it? I mean it sounds like you think he is smart enough to start such a compaign but isn't smart to know that you can't get sued for saying lesser things and on top of that not even having proof? I personally believe that he believes that... and it is not a game... and after hearing all that and even other boxers who say something about it I believe that Junior believes it too... does that make Pacquiao guilty no, of course not... but I don't think they do it just out of fun and destroying his legacy... I really don't... and so I don't think that they belong into the category of human beings that Goebbels is in... do you get what I mean?

He said it because he was bitter, spiteful, vengeful, & the fact that pacquiao is taking all the glory & awards from his son who is most likely gonna fight him, he said the steroid statement as a way to denigrate pacquiao without a single iota of evidence. He looked bad as a trainer during the hatton fight & just wanted to slag on pacquiao. Its his word against theirs. Steroid accusations are in vogue now & its the new scarlet letter in the sports world.

The whole steroid testing came out of al haymon & leonard ellerbe. junior & senior i agree agree are not that smart.

Do i believe Pac is clean? of course. Is there a possibility that he is not? DEFINITELY. What is being lost here is the fact that pacquiao never refused to the blood work. He only refused the USADA style testing where htey can draw your blood anytime & anywhere they please.

As for the joseph goebbels comparison, there is none. i only used him because of his quote which resonated with me. I didnt choose it because i think the mayweathers are ****s. i chose it because of the quote not who said it. It just happend that a evil bastard said it.

Is senior a evil bastard? Not in the joseph goebbels level. But he aint a good guy either. Neither are his family. There was a thread that outlined all the mayweather family's brushes with the law including a child prostitution ring that senior or roger was involved & the shooting incident with senior & his brother & using jr. as a human shield, then there's this thing about jr.'s mother being a **********. I dont know if this is true but a user made a thread about it but got deleted.

[screwhead1]

it's not a lie...it's an accusation...an accusation that pac can destroy at his own will...but he won't...he is allowing it to fluster into a quagmire of doubt...

[jkaisen41]

He said it because he was bitter, spiteful, vengeful, & the fact that pacquiao is taking all the glory & awards from his son who is most likely gonna fight him, he said the steroid statement as a way to denigrate pacquiao without a single iota of evidence. He looked bad as a trainer during the hatton fight & just wanted to slag on pacquiao. Its his word against theirs. Steroid accusations are in vogue now & its the new scarlet letter in the sports world.

The whole steroid testing came out of al haymon & leonard ellerbe. junior & senior i agree agree are not that smart.

Do i believe Pac is clean? of course. Is there a possibility that he is not? DEFINITELY. What is being lost here is the fact that pacquiao never refused to the blood work. He only refused the USADA style testing where htey can draw your blood anytime & anywhere they please.

As for the joseph goebbels comparison, there is none. i only used him because of his quote which resonated with me. I didnt choose it because i think the mayweathers are ****s. i chose it because of the quote not who said it. It just happend that a evil bastard said it.

Is senior a evil bastard? Not in the joseph goebbels level. But he aint a good guy either. Neither are his family. There was a thread that outlined all the mayweather family's brushes with the law including a child prostitution ring that senior or roger was involved & the shooting incident with senior & his brother & using jr. as a human shield, then there's this thing about jr.'s mother being a **********. I dont know if this is true but a user made a thread about it but got deleted.

But now you doing exactly the same thing as Mayweather... you accuse him of something that you ain't got no proof of... has Senior ever said that he is bitter, spiteful, vengeful about Pacquiao... even if that's the case you don't and can't know that... that's your conclusion, your opinion... but it is not a FACT... the same that they do with Pacquiao... is it fact no... but it is there conclusion, their opinion and you say they at fault for that... but on the other hand you are doing exactly the same thing.

Yeah, and that's my point... I understand your post as that... that is wasn't meant that they are ****s (that was for the poster under you) but I still got a problem if somebody walks around and just post lines from Goebbels like they were lines from Shakespeare you know...

Yeah, but you only see it from one perspective dude... I'm not here to give Senior or Roger an angel touch or something... to tell you the truth for me personally Roger is a twisted kind of human being (I don't like his antics, I don't like how he choked that girl, I don't like how he disrespected Mr. Futch)... if you **** on him it is more then deserving... but you don't have to pull it over to Junior... by the way Pacquiao also stole cigarettes and sold them to make a living... does that make him a bad human being? Of course it is not glorious to do drugs or sell drugs like Senior but do you think he made it out of fun... he made it to make some dollars... but only because he did something wrong (and he payed for it with jail) that he ain't got no right to live or have an opinion.

The thing that got really lost is the talk between Arum and Pacquiao... because the Pacquiao fans said he gave an interview and that he said that he will take it.... but Arum didn't know **** about it as it sounded... are these two guys even talking to each other?

It's the first time that I hear of this child prostituiton thing... and again... I really hope that you have proof for that... because things like that are even worse then doping IMO and if you don't have real proof of that you at Senior's level right now...

I know from the shooting accident... but I never heard that he took Junior as a shield... he had him on his arm as it happened... is there a link to that??? Or is it just a story that got fabricated all the way again? Where is the proof? It will be hard for you to proof it I guess... because you wasn't there or?