How the hell is Packy weight drained at 130 or 135?

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  • PensionKiller
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    #31
    Originally posted by Jack D Ripper
    He definitely looks more full at 44, but at 130 he looked like most boxers do at weigh in's. And it didn't affect his performance against Barrera at all. He won every round.
    I'm not saying he was weight drained. Just saying he has to rehydrate less.

    From 13/14 lbs to 5lbs is a huge difference.

    Barrera didn't come to fight that night. He was saying it was his last and didn;t want to lose by KO IMO.

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    • larry x
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      #32
      first he's drained at 130,135..then *******s say he didnt gain but 5 pounds of muscle between fighting jmm2 and fighting cotto...im confused

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        #33
        Originally posted by BritishBoxing92
        wha??? im not talking to you im talking to the author of this thread....the word Packy or as others say "****" is seen as racist
        It is with a Y not an I. Also it is an abbreviated version fo Pacquiaos name, and is not being used as a racial slur.

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          #34
          Originally posted by street bully
          Co-sign. Also the Barerra pic was taken from the side which makes him look smaller than he actually was. Pacquiao looked much bigger than Barerra on fight night. Pacquiao was bigger than all of his opponents in the lower weights.
          Ah yeah true he is angled abit. That's my point, he looks much bigger because he rehydrates a lot. It's water weight, but now he has mroe muscle in him as opposed to water and that can mean more strength. A strong core helps with punches. His calves, arms shoulder and neck look bigger too.

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            #35
            Originally posted by fdotorres
            JMM doesn't have a pulse anymore, i'd gladly double up my points against you
            Originally posted by fdotorres
            cotta would butt **** JMM
            Yeah, maybe in prison or in the real world where Cotta is clearly a gay, but in the ring. Psshh, JMM would slice him up.
            Originally posted by BritishBoxing92
            packy???? what the hell??? can u change that title it can be taken as a racial slur to pakistani people on this website...its like calling us the N word or saying summit like white trash which is also equally as offensive
            ??? Where the F have you been man? I've always called him Packy? Its my pet name for him.

            "Pacquiao" is too hard to spell all the damn time.

            Packy for short.

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            • street bully
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              #36
              Originally posted by larry x
              first he's drained at 130,135..then *******s say he didnt gain but 5 pounds of muscle between fighting jmm2 and fighting cotto...im confused
              Unofficially, he weight in at 145 against jmm and 148 against cotto.

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              • BritishBoxing92
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                #37
                Originally posted by street bully
                It is with a Y not an I. Also it is an abbreviated version fo Pacquiaos name, and is not being used as a racial slur.
                ok but i was just gonna suggest that he changes it to pac man because someone can take it the wrong way....for e.g. me i knew he was talkin about Pac Man but the title callin him packy was kindoff a trigger

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by PensionKiller
                  I'm not saying he was weight drained. Just saying he has to rehydrate less.

                  From 13/14 lbs to 5lbs is a huge difference.

                  Barrera didn't come to fight that night. He was saying it was his last and didn;t want to lose by KO IMO.
                  It really looks like Packy carried Barrera in that fight. Didn't k.o him brutally out of respect.

                  I could be wrong but i got that vibe.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by PensionKiller
                    I didn't say he moved better, that he will be stronger. Guzman just faced a tall ass guy, that would be like Pac facing Paul Williams and I believe Paul has the physical advantages to win. Although Guzman got the nod.

                    Guzman also has a style that is far from offensive. It's a lot harder to fight defensively and KO bigger guys IMO.

                    Cime to think of it, I believe Pac has better speed footwork wise. Perhaps his calves are bigger and stronger?

                    It could be said that he recently fought guys who aren't that fast in the ring bar Hatton, and Hatton did connect a few. Cotto is pretty good but he chose to have a war.

                    I do believe he goes up to 148/9 and that could mean a difference of 7% extra muscle. You also showed a video of Pac VS cotto comparing him to Oscar. He does look more muscular in the Cotto fight, which I think you mentioned. Perhaps his body got use to the climb up after the Hatton fight?

                    Remember that Pac fought a guy who was not much bigger than him in height or reach.

                    Pac was beating hof'ers at the lower weights. He is good.

                    Cintron, Clottey and to some extent Guzman are not hof fighters. Nor have they fought hof'ers such as morales, barerra and JMM.

                    Pacquaio has the speed that people at 140/147 rarely see, maybe even 135. That has made a huge difference. If he didn;t have the speed, he wouldn't be winning this much.
                    This I also understand but all I'm seeing is a maintain/ increase as Pacquiao moves up. In the bold, I'm not talking about opposition faced. I'm giving an example here; rehydrating to 147/148 at SFW doesn't mean sucess @ 140/147. Not having to cut weight isn't a luxury in most cases. I've seen much bigger SFWs then Pacquiao.
                    Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 01-01-2010, 05:30 PM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Jack D Ripper
                      It really looks like Packy carried Barrera in that fight. Didn't k.o him brutally out of respect.

                      I could be wrong but i got that vibe.
                      Looked like he wasn't going for it. Had Barerra badly hurt a few times. Also Barerra is dirt as **** and hit him on the break, and headbunted him many times. Pacquiao should have KOed him.

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