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Originally posted by S a m u r a i View PostWhat utter crap. If every fighter is under su****ion, more strict testing should be introduced for ALL fighters. Instead, GBP and Mayweather (these guys are ****ing scumbags in my opinion) singled out one man and tried to destroy his lifetime of hard work. This is such a ****** situation. I don't know one person -- all Pacquiao fans included -- who is actually against testing of any kind, the only thing they have a problem with is the way it's being done.
Humans suck. We are never happy until we've destroyed everything, just like we tore Michael Jackson apart, just as we allowed great artists to die in poverty, only to label them 'genius' when it was too late. **** you.
Roach, Ariza, Arum and Pac are to blame.
They couldve ended this circus weeks ago with a simple "ok".
The AMERICAN media is relentless..they will attack him everyday.
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Pacs rep cant be tainted. Only people who have failed tests are called into question, because lets face it any boxer is a potential suspect arent they?
SSM mosely failed a test but history will still remember him as a agreat boxer. Not as good as Pac of course but still a great boxer in peoples eyes is SSM.
ANd its not as if steroids helped SSM that much. He is still kicking plaster of paris margaritos butt without the help of roids. And we know Pac was doing great things in boxing even before he met Roach and wasnt a name.
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Originally posted by Aldo-Raine View PostNY DAILY NEWS
By: Tim Smith
Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao haven't even signed a contract to fight yet, but Pacquiao is already losing.
Mayweather's request that Pacquiao submit to random drug testing conducted by the United States Anti-Doping Agency before he signs a contract for the fight has put Pacquiao on his heels and put the proposed March 13 bout in jeopardy.
If Pacquiao doesn't agree to the stipulation, then it looks like he's trying to cheat. Pacquiao has never tested positive for any banned substance, but the atmosphere in sports these days is that every athlete is under su****ion of cheating until proven otherwise.
Mayweather-Pacquiao has reignited the passion of the mainstream sports fans for boxing. If Pacquiao wants to keep the flames of that passion hot, he will submit to the Olympic-style testing and go forward with the fight.
If he doesn't, then everyone will assume he is dirty and his accomplishments of the last two years - knocking out Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto - will be clouded by su****ion, and boxing will have suffered yet another blow below the belt.
This isn't some issue that just came about. It has been a part of the contract negotiations for weeks. According to a source familiar with the talks, Pacquiao's representatives asked what penalties Pacquiao would face if he tested dirty, and also if a dirty test result could be kept secret so that the integrity of the fight wouldn't be ruined in the public eye.
Those are disturbing requests. It could just be due diligence on the part of the attorneys negotiating the contract or it could be that Pacquiao has something to hide. The only way to clear up the matter is to agree to the testing. Mayweather has agreed to undergo the same procedures, putting more pressure on Pacquiao.
All of Pacquiao's initial arguments against taking the test are specious at best. He's afraid of needles. (How did he get all those tatoos?) He doesn't want to be weakened by having his blood taken so close to the fight. (What happens when he gets cut in a fight?)
Bob Arum of Top Rank, Pacquiao's promoter, said the Filipino fighter doesn't mind taking urine tests, but he doesn't want to submit to the schedule of blood testing as outlined by the USADA. Arum said Pacquiao wants to do three tests - one given in January during the week the fight is formally announced, one 30 days from the fight, no later than Feb. 13, and the final one immediately following the fight, in Pacquiao's locker room.
Arum's schedule has a loophole big enough for a cheating elephant to step through. It seems Pacquiao has trouble with the term "random," which is the linchpin of any reputable drug testing program. And the argument that he would be weakened if he were to take a blood test the week of the fight doesn't hold water.
"The amount of blood taken is so small it will have zero effect on performance," said Dr. Gary Wadler, the World Anti-Doping Agency chairman of the Prohibited List Committee. "It's really inconsequential when you take into account the total blood volume in the human body. It's not a valid argument."
Pacquiao has fallen under su****ion because of his meteoric rise from featherweight to welterweight in the last two years. In 2008, he won fights at 130, 135 and 142 pounds - an incredible feat in modern boxing. And he has seemingly gotten more powerful as he has risen in weight.
Andre Ward, the WBA 168-pound champion, won a gold medal for the U.S. boxing team at the 2004 Athens Games. He was subjected to testing by the USADA, but he said it never drew blood while he was competing. Ward sides with Mayweather, but can understand Pacquiao's concern over the random testing. He said it's inconvenient, but worthwhile if it keeps you above su****ion. Ward said if there were $40 million at stake, it wouldn't even be a question for him.
"I think he needs to do it so that no one is scratching their head and wondering about him," Ward said. "He needs to clear up any doubt. I agree with Mayweather and his camp. They're doing the right thing. They should take all the precautions to make sure that everything is done right. It's good for the sport."
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Originally posted by S a m u r a i View PostWhat utter crap. If every fighter is under su****ion, more strict testing should be introduced for ALL fighters. Instead, GBP and Mayweather (these guys are ****ing scumbags in my opinion) singled out one man and tried to destroy his lifetime of hard work. This is such a ****** situation. I don't know one person -- all Pacquiao fans included -- who is actually against testing of any kind, the only thing they have a problem with is the way it's being done.
Humans suck. We are never happy until we've destroyed everything, just like we tore Michael Jackson apart, just as we allowed great artists to die in poverty, only to label them 'genius' when it was too late. **** you.
Yeah, and you love it. Weird bastard.
just dont start crying again..
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Originally posted by MOREBASS View PostA source familiar with the negotiations.
I LOL whenever I read statements made by anonymous people. Anyone who isn't willing to give their actual identity is about as credible as my uncle's, sister's, best friend's, doctor's, personal trainer's, buddy from 6th grade.Originally posted by Amadla Ngawethu View PostThe press will dissect him,skin him alive and hang him out to dry.
All I got to say is if it is true that clause in the contract then..... WOW.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostPacs rep cant be tainted. Only people who have failed tests are called into question, because lets face it any boxer is a potential suspect arent they?
SSM mosely failed a test but history will still remember him as a agreat boxer. Not as good as Pac of course but still a great boxer in peoples eyes is SSM.
ANd its not as if steroids helped SSM that much. He is still kicking plaster of paris margaritos butt without the help of roids. And we know Pac was doing great things in boxing even before he met Roach and wasnt a name.
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The Nevada State Athletic commission conducts scientific and state of the art drug testing before fights. Fighters that have been caught with some form of banned substance in their system include Fernando Vargas, Ricardo Mayorga, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and a long list of many others. Pacquiao has never failed a drug test, even back when blood was drawn from him prior to his first fight against Erik Morales in 2005. Pacquiao lost that fight by the way and said after the fight that the blood drawn from him caused him to feel weak. So you can say, Pacquiao speaks from experience as to why he refuses to give blood any time near fight night which Team Mayweather is subjecting him to do. As a compromise, Pacquiao is willing to submit to a blood test immediately after the fight. If there is banned substance to be detected in Pacquiao's blood 48 hours before the fight, then it is likely to remain there 48 seconds after fighting Mayweather. The key point here is "Pacquiao does not want to be tested before the fight because it weakens him".
And we are NOT talking about just a drop of blood here. Here's what 2008 Jamaican Olympics sprinter Asafa Powell said in an article publised by Yahoo.com,
Asafa Powell complained he was tested excessively during the 2008 Olympics in Beijing, in which he won a gold medal as a member of his nation’s 4 x 100 meter relay team. “I got pretty upset two days ago because since I have been here, they have tested me four times,” Powell said during the 2008 Games. “They’ve taken so much blood from us we’re going to be very weak before the final.”
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