For those who want the sport to be cleaned up so bad,

[Vasyl’s dad]

I never implied I was an "expert" I do have common sense though and I believe random drug testing would only better the sport, simple as that.I mean why as a fan of the sport would you not want that?

And even if we were speaking up for whatever reasons you state(Floystans,bitter fans, etc..)Why does that matter in the big stage?I mean we are just fans speaking up for the sport in a boxing forum.We don't look bad.....Pac is the one taking a major blow to not only his image but his legacy, he's in the big picture.I mean why would he refuse if he is clean?

About your avatar, I remember...you're the "viva la raza" guy from the other thread....relax bro, it's a joke...I love tortillas

so then just prove you cared before any of this became a recent issue.

Thats all I'm asking, to see who really cared about cleaning up the sport prior to one ex convict making baseless accusations.

You said you've been a fan since 06, so you've surely heard or read about the stories of past steroid users.

Surely you must have had some type of posts explaining how you feel the sport needs cleaning up.


You're asking Manny Pacquiao to prove his innocence,

I'm asking you to prove your stance goes beyond this one particular fight.

Shouldn't be hard if you've been a fan for more than a year.

[-Mbandit-]

so then just prove you cared before any of this became a recent issue.

Thats all I'm asking, to see who really cared about cleaning up the sport prior to one ex convict making baseless accusations.

You said you've been a fan since 06, so you've surely heard or read about the stories of past steroid users.

Surely you must have had some type of posts explaining how you feel the sport needs cleaning up.


You're asking Manny Pacquiao to prove his innocence,

I'm asking you to prove your stance goes beyond this one particular fight.

Shouldn't be hard if you've been a fan for more than a year.

You say Pac doesn't have to prove anything yet you turn around and ask someone in the internet you don't even know to prove something to you?I think you have it backwards bro......It's not about me, stop trying to turn things around!

It's about Pac and his refusal to take some simple blood tests.It just doesn't sound right to me.He must be hiding something unless it's part of the promotion which I believe is a strong possibility.

And to also, I just started posting more frequently in the past 6 months believe it or not.I posted just a handful of times from 06-08(check my posting history).This past year I have been increasing my post count so any opinions I might of had about steroids and boxing(which is irrelevant to the Pac/May situation) before that would've most likely went un-posted.

[shadeyfizzle]

so then just prove you cared before any of this became a recent issue.

Thats all I'm asking, to see who really cared about cleaning up the sport prior to one ex convict making baseless accusations.

You said you've been a fan since 06, so you've surely heard or read about the stories of past steroid users.

Surely you must have had some type of posts explaining how you feel the sport needs cleaning up.


You're asking Manny Pacquiao to prove his innocence,

I'm asking you to prove your stance goes beyond this one particular fight.

Shouldn't be hard if you've been a fan for more than a year.

You notice how none of these guys that keep endorsing random blood testing dont even know the definition of random???

Otherwise they wouldnt be making ******ass claims about blood testing wont affect performance

[Go Blue]

Why whenever a issue is brought up Tortilla, Psycone whoever you are nowadays...you always duck the issue at hand to dive into the past???

Why is that?

This Pac stuff is getting attention because its the bigest fight of the last 25 Years.

And to you and makaveli the two **** boys.....who said because hes a threat to Floyd.


I ask and say this:

DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK FLOYD WANTS PAC TO FAIL THE TESTS?

IF HE FAILS AND THEY FIND SOMETHING BEFORE MARCH 13TH....THE FIGHT IS OFF.

WHICH MEANS HE DOESNT GET HIS 45 MILLION DOLLARS.

THE LAST THING FLOYD WANTS IS FOR PAC TO TEST POSITIVE.

THE DRUGS TEST ARE IN PLACE TO PREVENT PAC FROM TAKING THEM.

/thread bitches

[Vasyl’s dad]

You say Pac doesn't have to prove anything yet you turn around and ask someone in the internet you don't even know to prove something to you?I think you have it backwards bro......It's not about me, stop trying to turn things around!

It's about Pac and his refusal to take some simple blood tests.It just doesn't sound right to me.He must be hiding something unless it's part of the promotion which I believe is a strong possibility.

And to also, I just started posting more frequently in the past 6 months believe it or not.I posted just a handful of times from 06-08.This past year I have been increasing my post count so any opinions I might of had about steroids and boxing(which is irrelevant to the Pac/May situation) before that would've most likely went un-posted.

Don't try to make this about me.



Just do as you're asking another man to do,

"prove it".


It shouldn't be so hard since you've always wanted the sport to be cleaned up.


If you cannot prove it, you must be lying.

[Vasyl’s dad]

You notice how none of these guys that keep endorsing random blood testing dont even know the definition of random???

Otherwise they wouldnt be making ******ass claims about blood testing wont affect performance

I notice that along with many other things, which is why I made this thread.

I've never seen any single one of these guys make any posts or threads about how much they care about the cleaning up of the sport before Floyd Sr. made this an issue.

Its not a coincidence, the biggest supporters of the Floyd these days besides *****s,

are the fans of the guys Manny beat.
Barrera, Marquez and Cotto.


All I'm doing is asking for some evidence that they've always cared about cleaning up boxing in regards to PEDs.

If they can't provide documentation,

they must be lying.

[el malo]

Because everybody who fights them is either too ****** or scared to ask for tests. They have gotten away with cheating before, and i wouldn't be surprised at all if they were to cheat again.

By asking these questions you make it seem like your content with people using PED's.

Agreed /thread

[Vasyl’s dad]

Agreed /thread

Cotto fan.

How shocking.


As a Cotto fan, did you demand Pac take these tests prior to Manny making him his *****?

[-Mbandit-]

Don't try to make this about me.



Just do as you're asking another man to do,

"prove it".


It shouldn't be so hard since you've always wanted the sport to be cleaned up.


If you cannot prove it, you must be lying.

I'm not making it about you, you're making it about the fans when it's about Pacquiao.

I already told you, if I had anything to say about it it would've probably went un-posted as I only posted a handful of times from 06-08....check my posting history.

And even if I didn't care before, so what?There's a first time for everything.What's your point?I'm not the one looking bad right now, it's pac and he's the one on the big stage.Whether I do it because I'm a "floydstan" or because it's Pac, it really doesn't matter because at the end of the day I'm not the one being demanded to take the test, Pac is.And he is the one refusing!

[Vasyl’s dad]

I'm not making it about you, you're making it about the fans when it's about Pacquiao.

I already told you, if I had anything to say about it it would've probably went un-posted as I only posted a handful of times from 06-08....check my posting history.

And even if I didn't care before, so what?There's a first time for everything.What's you're point?I'm not the one looking bad right now, it's pac and he's the one in the big stage.Whether I do it because I'm a "floydstan" or because it's Pac, it really doesn't matter because at the end of the day I'm not the one being demanded to take the test, Pac is.And he is the one refusing!

All you have to do is prove that you've always wanted to have a clean sport.

So, go ahead.

I'll be waiting.


If not, you're just lying.

Or, you can just admit that it only mattered to you beginning recently.


Either way, you should just admit something.

If you don't have anything to hide.