For those who want the sport to be cleaned up so bad,

[Vasyl’s dad]

First you ask me to show you whats been said, and now you ask me to show you where i stand?

So i ask you to show me where you thought drug testing isn't necessary since you obliviously are against it with Pacquiao.

Unless this website has my biography written on it, Ive never mentioned where i stood on the issue of drug testing because it wasn't necessary. Once again trying to make the legitimate look bad.

Its easy to believe a person was pro testing, however its EXTREMELY difficult to believe that you were always against drug testing. The same old story, where the accuser is guilty of the accusation.

Its in my posts,

I never wrote about it because I've been fine with the commissions doing their jobs already.



If you have nothing to hide,

show the proof that you've always cared about cleaning up the sport.

Shouldn't be so hard since you're such a hardliner for the betterment of boxing.

[ItaZY]

Its in my posts,

I never wrote about it because I've been fine with the commissions doing their jobs already.



If you have nothing to hide,

show the proof that you've always cared about cleaning up the sport.

Shouldn't be so hard since you're such a hardliner for the betterment of boxing.

Look at that, you also didn't side on drug testing until the accusations on Pacquiao. What a surprise.

If you don't believe i want the sport cleaned up, ask yourself why would i want it dirty? Theres all the proof i need bud.

[BlackHat]

WTF are you talking about?First off, who the hell got caught using steroids after 06?And second, what do you expect me to do about it?And third, what do you think about random testing?Do you agree with it or not?And fourth.....it's hard to take you serious with a package of tortilla's as your avatar

I'm the well known Perry the Platypus and you're the infamous Desert outlaw.. lol, this is just the internet, anyhow, the guy has a solid post, bunch of hypocrisies goin on here lately..

[Vasyl’s dad]

WTF are you talking about?First off, who the hell got caught using steroids after 06?And second, what do you expect me to do about it?And third, what do you think about random testing?Do you agree with it or not?And fourth.....it's hard to take you serious with a package of tortilla's as your avatar

Why don't you tell me who got caught recently since you're so worried about the cleanliness of boxing.

You guys should know as you're the biggest proponents for a change in the policies.



What do I think about random drug testing?

I don't.

You appear to be quite the expert on it, so why don't you lay out the facts for me.



Its hard for you to take me serious because of my avatar,

yet, you're in here responding to my thread.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Look at that, you also didn't side on drug testing until the accusations on Pacquiao. What a surprise.

If you don't believe i want the sport cleaned up, ask yourself why would i want it dirty? Theres all the proof i need bud.

Side with drug testing?

I never cared about it and don't pretend to act like its been a major issue for me.

So what is the surprise again?

That you follow the rantings of an ex convict?

That you never cared about this issue until an ex convict brought it up.

No, thats not surprising at all.

You also don't believe Floyd ducked any of the best welterweights in the five years hes been in the division.

Take it for what its worth.



You've never mentioned anything about the sport needing cleaning up until camp Floyd made it an issue.

Be real with yourself.

[Go Blue]

Why whenever a issue is brought up Tortilla, Psycone whoever you are nowadays...you always duck the issue at hand to dive into the past???

Why is that?

This Pac stuff is getting attention because its the bigest fight of the last 25 Years.

And to you and makaveli the two **** boys.....who said because hes a threat to Floyd.


I ask and say this:

DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK FLOYD WANTS PAC TO FAIL THE TESTS?

IF HE FAILS AND THEY FIND SOMETHING BEFORE MARCH 13TH....THE FIGHT IS OFF.

WHICH MEANS HE DOESNT GET HIS 45 MILLION DOLLARS.

THE LAST THING FLOYD WANTS IS FOR PAC TO TEST POSITIVE.

THE DRUGS TEST ARE IN PLACE TO PREVENT PAC FROM TAKING THEM.

/thread bitches

[ItaZY]

Be real with yourself.

I am being real with myself, something you don't know how to do.

Short end to the story, your not going to sit at your computer and tell me I'm pro drug testing because I'm a Floyd fan. Thats something you obviously don't know, End of argument.

[-Mbandit-]

Why don't you tell me who got caught recently since you're so worried about the cleanliness of boxing.

You guys should know as you're the biggest proponents for a change in the policies.



What do I think about random drug testing?

I don't.

You appear to be quite the expert on it, so why don't you lay out the facts for me.



Its hard for you to take me serious because of my avatar,

yet, you're in here responding to my thread.

I never implied I was an "expert" I do have common sense though and I believe random drug testing would only better the sport, simple as that.I mean why as a fan of the sport would you not want that?

And even if we were speaking up for whatever reasons you state(Floystans,bitter fans, etc..)Why does that matter in the big stage?I mean we are just fans speaking up for the sport in a boxing forum.We don't look bad.....Pac is the one taking a major blow to not only his image but his legacy, he's in the big picture.I mean why would he refuse if he is clean?

About your avatar, I remember...you're the "viva la raza" guy from the other thread....relax bro, it's a joke...I love tortillas

[Vasyl’s dad]

I am being real with myself, something you don't know how to do.

Short end to the story, your not going to sit at your computer and tell me I'm pro drug testing because I'm a Floyd fan. Thats something you obviously don't know, End of argument.

Hard to believe you without any proof.


I mean, just as you request of Manny to prove his innocence,


all you have to is post the proof with past posts that you've cared about the steroids issue longer than this recent bickering between the two camps have been going on and longer than Floyd Sr making his accusations.

Surely, as a proponent for stricter boxing standards, you must have brought it up at one time or another seeing as how its been an issue for the past 10 years.


Prove it.

[shadeyfizzle]

Why whenever a issue is brought up Tortilla, Psycone whoever you are nowadays...you always duck the issue at hand to dive into the past???

Why is that?

This Pac stuff is getting attention because its the bigest fight of the last 25 Years.

And to you and makaveli the two **** boys.....who said because hes a threat to Floyd.


I ask and say this:

DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK FLOYD WANTS PAC TO FAIL THE TESTS?

IF HE FAILS AND THEY FIND SOMETHING BEFORE MARCH 13TH....THE FIGHT IS OFF.

WHICH MEANS HE DOESNT GET HIS 45 MILLION DOLLARS.

THE LAST THING FLOYD WANTS IS FOR PAC TO TEST POSITIVE.

THE DRUGS TEST ARE IN PLACE TO PREVENT PAC FROM TAKING THEM.

/thread bitches

Tell us what the definition of RANDOM is and how random blood testing wont affect performance.