If manny pacquiao is on steroids or peds

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  • fightingfigs
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    #61
    Originally posted by Xeraser
    Thats true but detecting steroids, urine test does the work. There's a published research study about that.

    Testing urine is better than testing blood for most prohibited substances (small molecules, molecular
    weight less than ~800 atomic mass units). Urine collection is noninvasive and yields a large volume of
    sample, with higher drug concentrations than in blood and with far fewer cells and proteins to complicate
    extraction.

    Let me put it this way, Dr. Catlin knows more about anti-blood doping and testing more than anyone in this world.
    on top of that I have provided clear cut inromation attached with an article on steroids or PED detection.

    All your providing is hear say which you probably got from some dude in your gym whos juicing

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    • fightingfigs
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      #62
      Originally posted by PensionKiller
      Pacquaio had a lot of trouble to make weight. He lost to morales for being weight drained. He then suffered at 130 against a JMM rematch. He is not actually mroe shreaded at 145 than at the lower weights.

      Think 130 vs valsquez



      Against Diaz at 135



      Against Hatton at 140lbs (Think he was 138)



      144 lbs against Cotto:




      To me he has gotten bigger. Not in how toned he is, but a lot bulkier. His face has more water weight and I can see less of his bones and more chin
      I dont think its the size, because his type of workout doesnt promote extreme size gain like heavy weight lifting. Its more his strength in his punches and ability to take body damage so well. His strength alone gained 2 fol since DLH. most guys who go up 3 divisions cant carry thier power like that.

      His pounches looked freakishly strong against miguel Cotto. I mean not even Mosley could do that and hes one of the WW heavyhitters along with Miguel Cotto.

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      • Piolo Pascual
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        #63
        Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
        You know, I'm constantly hearing that Pacquiao doesn't have to obide to OST due to Floyd Sr.'s allegations, but how about the pleasure of proving them and everyone else wrong? He could laugh in their faces, and those making the accusations would lose some credibility. There is alot more to gain here. Think people!
        You really think that the accussers are gonna shut thier trap even if Pac passes all the tests?

        He should really take the tests though.

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        • fightingfigs
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          #64
          Originally posted by Piolo Pascual
          You really think that the accussers are gonna shut thier trap even if Pac passes all the tests?

          He should really take the tests though.
          why would they keep running thier mouths if he takes the tests all to thier requirements?

          It would disprove everything.

          He hasnt for a reason

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          • cortdawg25
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            #65
            Originally posted by fightingfigs
            I dont think its the size, because his type of workout doesnt promote extreme size gain like heavy weight lifting. Its more his strength in his punches and ability to take body damage so well. His strength alone gained 2 fol since DLH. most guys who go up 3 divisions cant carry thier power like that.

            His pounches looked freakishly strong against miguel Cotto. I mean not even Mosley could do that and hes one of the WW heavyhitters along with Miguel Cotto.
            i know his head has gotten huge!!! he sure is carruyign a lot of water in that head or juice! lol

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            • Piolo Pascual
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              #66
              Originally posted by fightingfigs
              why would they keep running thier mouths if he takes the tests all to thier requirements?

              It would disprove everything.

              He hasnt for a reason
              Umm... Coz that's what haters do?

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              • PensionKiller
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                #67
                Originally posted by fightingfigs
                I dont think its the size, because his type of workout doesnt promote extreme size gain like heavy weight lifting. Its more his strength in his punches and ability to take body damage so well. His strength alone gained 2 fol since DLH. most guys who go up 3 divisions cant carry thier power like that.

                His pounches looked freakishly strong against miguel Cotto. I mean not even Mosley could do that and hes one of the WW heavyhitters along with Miguel Cotto.
                Wait a minute,

                Hang on there,

                What did Pac ahters say after Hatton and Cotto?

                Hmm,

                Yes Hatton was done and has no defnese,


                Floyd picks people apart with skills,

                Pac had a heavy bag,

                And for Cotto?

                Cotto was done since Marg and had wars or took hard shots with Clottey, Torres, Marg and Mosely,

                Weight drained at 145.

                So now Pac has more power?

                1) Well it is quite possible that he has more power being bigger.

                2) Having more angles and two hands as opposed to his earlier days with a solid left which is earlier to defend against.

                3) Has money now to have a nurtritionalist and ale ariza who works on his body as opposed to fighting at 16 with rice once a day VS men.

                4) Has recently fought people who are good but not ATG or in their prime

                5) Does not need to rehydrate to 145 from 130 which will weaken anyone

                6) Works damn hard as each fighter is bigger and more known

                7) He didn;t take that many shots from Cotto if you watch the fight

                8) Cotto tried to fight as the bigger man and got hit, he boxed VS Mosely with a great jab and ran the last 3 rounds

                9) He didn';t take any damage the 3 last fights before before Cotto. Diaz, Oscar and Hatton, while Cott had a war with Clottey

                10) Style makes fights and this is why I want mayweather VS Pac. two greats at what they do

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                • p4p-champ
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Piolo Pascual
                  Umm... Coz that's what haters do?
                  If he takes the test and comes clean, what is there to say? Nothing.

                  Take the test, clear your name and fight Mayweather. Thats all he has to do.

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                  • Doctor_Tenma
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Piolo Pascual
                    You really think that the accussers are gonna shut thier trap even if Pac passes all the tests?

                    He should really take the tests though.
                    Let them run their mouths, they still lose some credibility.

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                    • fightingfigs
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Piolo Pascual
                      Umm... Coz that's what haters do?
                      lol cmon man be realistic, If pacquiao took the tests he would have extreme backup by every news or press organization and you can kiss the slightest shredd of thought that Manny pacquiao has any type of physical edge goodbye. You will never hear of anything like this again if he took those tests.

                      Despite him not taking these blood tests he still has a good amount if backup the press as it is.

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