If Pacman doesn't Sign and Take Test: Legacy Forever Tarnished

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  • El_Cholo
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    #11
    oh good another post about the same old ****e.

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    • Marduke
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      #12
      Originally posted by corpse elf
      internet floyd haters and pacfans will disagree...

      the rest of the world will agree..i dont think internet fans realize how guilty manny looks to the rest of the world and the news and sporting outlets are not givin the benefit of the doubt...for some reason internet boxing fans dont see it..i dont know why..
      I think the media has been on Manny's side, except for some self-admitted Floyd Nuthuggers *cough*Fitzsimmons*cough*. Although I think public opinion will turn on him if he doesn't meet Mayweather somewhere in the middle.

      It's unfortunate for Manny, because America has been in a complete Steroid craze for the past few years, looking for witches to burn in just about every sport. He's just the latest target.

      I'm pretty confident that Manny is in fact NOT using PEDs, but he has handled this situation poorly. I chalk it up to him mostly being an uneducated kid from the streets of the Philippines. He's not the type of guy to talk **** and make allegations, so he doesn't understand why someone else would do it.

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      • playaballer1
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        #13
        Pac is in a tough position right now.. If he takes the test and found negative to any peds use and then loss to Mayweather. Ppl would think he loss cuz he wasn't on it. If he doesn't take the test and won the fight.. everyone would say he was on some sort of peds.. He must take the test and whoop PBF's ass maybe is the only way out of this mess.. I think he should continue with the lawsuits though cuz his name is damaged right now.. These crazy accusations w/ no proof is not fair for pac as a person.

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        • pistol whip
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          #14
          If it tarnishes his legacy with crack pot boxing fans who believe anything they read on the internet then who cares.

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          • renren40
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            #15
            Originally posted by Blairhoyle792
            oh good another post about the same old ****e.
            pretty much

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            • renren40
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              #16
              Originally posted by pistol whip
              If it tarnishes his legacy with crack pot boxing fans who believe anything they read on the internet then who cares.
              good point .. Manny has his whole country supporting him and believe in him ...

              American fans were critical of even Lance Armstrong but not the same level that they are of Manny ...

              Even Bonds, Mcguire, and OJ simpson got more love and support than Manny

              Pete Rose and Mike Vick got more love ... There were many trying to stick up for them ... before and after proven guilty

              And all of the above were guilty

              Manny however has not been proven guilty and in my eyes he is just not letting Mayweather try to bully him outside the ring

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              • norrin
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                #17
                I know this may sound ****** to you. But why would you put yourself in that position?

                To say Floyd is ducking Manny; Floyd would have to know that Manny was going to throw a fit at taking blood test. If I were Floyd, I would have asked for 70% of the purse which would have been something he knew Manny would have refused not an issue over blood.

                The argument about not letting Mayweather bully him around doesn't make any sense either because it is all part of negotiations. I could understand that argument if Mayweather would have told Manny there would be no fight if he didn't get the following:

                1. Olympic style testing only for Manny.
                2. 70% of the purse.
                3. 10 oz gloves
                4. A boxing ring the size of a football field.

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                • renren40
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by norrin
                  I know this may sound ****** to you. But why would you put yourself in that position?

                  To say Floyd is ducking Manny; Floyd would have to know that Manny was going to throw a fit at taking blood test. If I were Floyd, I would have asked for 70% of the purse which would have been something he knew Manny would have refused not an issue over blood.

                  The argument about not letting Mayweather bully him around doesn't make any sense either because it is all part of negotiations. I could understand that argument if Mayweather would have told Manny there would be no fight if he didn't get the following:

                  1. Olympic style testing only for Manny.
                  2. 70% of the purse.
                  3. 10 oz gloves
                  4. A boxing ring the size of a football field.
                  the number 2 p4p does not have the leverage
                  to demand the p4p king to take 15 random drug tests in 10 weeks ..

                  that's bullying

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                  • renren40
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by norrin
                    I know this may sound ****** to you. But why would you put yourself in that position?

                    To say Floyd is ducking Manny; Floyd would have to know that Manny was going to throw a fit at taking blood test. If I were Floyd, I would have asked for 70% of the purse which would have been something he knew Manny would have refused not an issue over blood.

                    The argument about not letting Mayweather bully him around doesn't make any sense either because it is all part of negotiations. I could understand that argument if Mayweather would have told Manny there would be no fight if he didn't get the following:

                    1. Olympic style testing only for Manny.
                    2. 70% of the purse.
                    3. 10 oz gloves
                    4. A boxing ring the size of a football field.

                    here is a solution for you ....


                    1) Since Mayweather is naturally bigger he will spill out a higher volume of blood, say at 3:1. At 10 total Samples with 200ml per sample, Manny will provide 2000ml of blood while Floyd will give 6000ml of blood.

                    2) If Manny is found with any illegal substance on any test, he will pay $4M for each test found positive. Since Floyd made the accusation directly or indirectly, for every negative test he will pay Pacquiao $8M for every test found negative.

                    That would be calling his raise and raising the pot much much higher. I dont know what these so called advisers of Pacquiao are thinking. They dont know how to dilute Mayweathers' argument and put a counterspin to it. All Mayweather is doing is just posturing. Easy PR job

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                    • norrin
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by renren40
                      here is a solution for you ....


                      1) Since Mayweather is naturally bigger he will spill out a higher volume of blood, say at 3:1. At 10 total Samples with 200ml per sample, Manny will provide 2000ml of blood while Floyd will give 6000ml of blood.

                      2) If Manny is found with any illegal substance on any test, he will pay $4M for each test found positive. Since Floyd made the accusation directly or indirectly, for every negative test he will pay Pacquiao $8M for every test found negative.

                      That would be calling his raise and raising the pot much much higher. I dont know what these so called advisers of Pacquiao are thinking. They dont know how to dilute Mayweathers' argument and put a counterspin to it. All Mayweather is doing is just posturing. Easy PR job
                      I will hate myself in the morning . . . but to go with your reasoning . . . for each pound Mayweather is equal to or less than the agreed upon weight limit. Manny should pay Floyd $10 million if he comes in at weight and another $10 million for each pound he is under the weight.

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