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  • #71
    Originally posted by rao007 View Post
    Sr...is on Team Mayweather. Again, I have nothing against random drug testing---but you got to be naive to believe they're not accusing or atleasting hinting based on these olympic testing standards that Pacquiao is on PEDs...I'm all for the tests by the way..but don't be gullible.
    Its called su****ion but they have a right to be su****ious, its not against the law and its not like Floyd wouldn't be taking the same tests. Remember it was su****ion that caused Hopkins to send his trainer in the room when trinidad was getting his hands wrapped and thats how he got busted. It was su****ion why Mosley sent his trainer (****m, the same trainer for Hopkins) in the room when Margorito was getting his hands wrapped and he also got busted. There's nothing wrong with su****ion. If you are clean you will be more than happy to prove it especially as an elite athlete. Roger Clemens (baseballtried to handle things the same way as Manny right now and scare people off with his threats of lawsuits when he was in fact using performance enhancing drugs and it just blew up in his face. If Manny is clean take the tests if not shut up and walk away from the fight but don't complain when people say things because you had a chance to prove it along with getting $40 mill to do that.
    Last edited by Championart; 12-29-2009, 01:14 PM.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by crillz View Post
      honestly speaking though what if Pacquiao really IS taking performing enhancing substances and it's proven it's been in him for a while or they catch him trying to use that against Mayweather, based on how untouchable he looked against Cotto is it not safe to say he used it for that fight too? if it's his conditioning teams and people around him taking the blame then it ****s him over worse because he had this team for a minute, he definitely had them for the Cotto fight. if they were giving you that and you had them for the Cotto fight isn't it only logical to think they gave it to you for your previous fights too?

      if his team steps up and takes the blame to save his ass and they say it was them who gave it to him, common sense alone should tell you Cotto got a bad shake because the people who gave it to him now or whenever he gets caught are the same people showing their faces in the 24/7, people who are in his team and built him up to his very last bout. honestly man you telling me IF it's proven Manny is a fluke that people will be wrong to discredit that win too the way they discredit the 1 and only brick layer himself An-phony-o Plastercheato? **** outta here son..


      Wow talk about what if's! It's funny how you and others like you have to come up with outlandish, and unfounded scenerios to explain Manny's success.

      Margarito is one thing since there was actual evidence presented in another fight but even that doesn't prove that he used plaster against Cotto. But in Mannys case the only evidence is a crackhead old man and his idiot son talking **** just for the sake of talking ****.

      Maybe if there was an actual shred of evidence I could take you seriously but since there isn't all I can say is thanks for spewing all that hot air because it cold outside right now.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by rao007 View Post
        Sr...is on Team Mayweather. Again, I have nothing against random drug testing---but you got to be naive to believe they're not accusing or atleasting hinting based on these olympic testing standards that Pacquiao is on PEDs...I'm all for the tests by the way..but don't be gullible.


        No Snr isnt on Team Mayweather apart from him been the Dad, And no am not gullible and i know and understand why they wanted a test done on both fighter.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Championart View Post
          Its called su****ion but they have a right to be su****ious, its not against the law and its not like Floyd wouldn't be taking the same tests. Remember it was su****ion that caused Hopkins to send his trainer in the room when trinidad was getting his hands wrapped and thats how he got busted. It was su****ion why Mosley sent his trainer (****m, the same trainer for Hopkins) in the room when Margorito was getting his hands wrapped and he also got busted. There's nothing wrong with su****ion. If you are clean you will be more than happy to prove it especially as an elite athlete. Roger Clemens (baseballtried to handle things the same way as Manny right now and scare people off with his threats of lawsuits when he was in fact using performance enhancing drugs and it just blew up in his face. If Manny is clean take the tests if not shut up and walk away from the fight but don't complain when people say things because you had a chance to prove it along with getting $40 mill to do that.


          Thank you, That was awesome to read.. Green sent.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Imhotep View Post
            Roidquiao is a cornered rat.
            Damn bro give the man the benefit of a doubt.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by millcitymauler View Post
              Yeh I did...and I'm not saying that he's whining in any way. However, being Manny's last K.O. victim, I would have rather seen him stay quiet and let this play out without his interjection that may be taken out of context for SOMEONE ELSE'S benefit or agenda.
              the ONLY benefit and agenda that Floyd Mayweather Jr and Co have is to have a clean fight, the one who has all these hidden agendas with all these excuses and reasons to not be tested is Manny Pacquiao. it's HIM holding back the fight, HE is the one making **** hard and there is simply no good reason for that..

              Cotto losing to Pacquiao is MORE of a reason why he should not only be vocal but take a step further and actually try to persuade Pacquiao to do because pretend you're Cotto, you just defended your world title which you won respectively at 147 in a bout where the limit is 145 all due to your opponents name and fame, you hit him with everything you had and you backed up because you never felt nothing that hard even after being plastered 3 fights ago, he wins and unrightfully claims a 7th division belt due to his star power and in his next fight he refuses to take tests he also didn't take in your fight which are more effective in catching cheaters, he refuses 100%. wouldn't you feel some sort of way? wouldn't you wonder why he doesn't want to take the tests being that he just fought you? what happens if he's dirty? is it out of the question to assume he cheated against you if it's proven he IS in fact a cheater?

              Cotto has EVERY right to speak hi piece against Manny and more people need to come out and speak against him, not to destroy him but to get him to do the right things and answer the worlds questions..

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              • #77
                Really I did not wanted cotto to talk about this whole mess, but in the end he did made a good interview.

                Now putting my 2 cents here on this whole steroid thing. I still believe that this is no more than a marketing hype for the fight ( as it really needed any more). But I stand by that for the moment because I can not believe that Arum a Box promoter for so may years and GBP to be stalling in what could very well be the biggest pay day this companies will ever see historically as for there own profit and as a boxing match record in revenues. So this theatrics if it is what they are doing is not unconcivable since promoting companies do not really care about there boxers in the long run, just what they can do to get the most money from them, so this may very well be the case and it is what I believe it is happening.

                In the other hand, if this is drama is all true, then Manny has to take action and take the test and fire all his advisors. For the record, I believe he is not on anything but the positions he has taking opened the window of doubt, if this whole drama is true.

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                • #78
                  Agreed, Miguel.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by rockybalboa1 View Post
                    I agree. If he wants to shut people up, he needs to take the tests. It's not like Mayweather isn't gonna take it, as well.
                    Tennis players go through this all year long now, with Olympic style testing.
                    It is intrusive, but it is the only way to know for sure that someone is on the up and up.

                    Cotto is right, this should be done throughout boxing, period. And Pac-Man should shut up and agree to the testing.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Ray` View Post

                      Thank you, That was awesome to read.. Green sent.
                      Thanks man, no prob. It just kills me how biased and ****** people in this world can be. If Ussain Bolt (track and field) of Jamaica or Michael Phelps (swimming) United States who are dominating there sports like Manny is doing out of the blue right now ever refused to comply with random drug testing people and the media would tear them to shreds until they proved they were clean. Why should Manny be any different and not comply as an elite athlete.

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