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  • ThePunchingBag
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    #81
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    I disagree.
    Power, Speed, Athleticism.

    What does Floyd have that a prime RJJ didn't have?

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    • DiLLiNGER
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      #82
      Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
      RJJ ****s on Floyd skills.
      Roy use to have a nice style but tarvers ,johnsons,griffins style did break him..floyd hasn't lost yet so there you go his style hasn't been broken tru yet,now don't come with that he hasn't fought anyone **** yet..this thread smells like hate..oh yea 120 seconds against green hmm??

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        #83
        Originally posted by DiLLiNGER
        Roy use to have a nice style but tarvers ,johnsons,griffins style did break him..floyd hasn't lost yet so there you go his style hasn't been broken tru yet,now don't come with that he hasn't fought anyone **** yet..this thread smells like hate..oh yea 120 seconds against green hmm??
        You trying to say Floyd would beat prime RJJ p4p?

        Only reason RJJ lost is cuz he got old.

        Floyd is 32 and still has yet to fight an elite WW.

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          #84
          Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
          Power, Speed, Athleticism.

          What does Floyd have that a prime RJJ didn't have?
          fundamentally skilled, Roy never had that he got by speed and athleticism. Just like Ali when he was Cassius Clay he got put speed and athleticism. But, pure boxing skill Floyd has it bro. He is fundamentally sound Roy can not touch him on that. Really Floyd could be fighting for 10 more years and still be competitive against anybody. Just like how Hopkins is now. When Roy speed and athleticism was not what it use to be. You saw him drop off. You saw get hit more. Floyd won't have that problem. Even when his speed and athleticism goes. He will still have that defense, he will still have that I.Q, he will still have the fundamental, and he will still be a very skillful fighter.

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            #85
            Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
            You trying to say Floyd would beat prime RJJ p4p?

            Only reason RJJ lost is cuz he got old.

            Floyd is 32 and still has yet to fight an elite WW.
            Floyd beat better fighters than pacquiao..gatti..corrales..pacquiaos last few wins were all at "catchweight"..floyd beat hatton when he was in his prime..a healthy oscar de la hoya don't forget ok!

            Everytime pac fought someone good he strugled or he lost like morales or barrera or even jmm..and its funny but we all know what roach said before pac fought his last 3 or 4 people ..either they couldn't pull the trigger anymore or they're damaged goods..that's what he said not me!!
            Last edited by DiLLiNGER; 12-29-2009, 02:50 AM.

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              #86
              Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
              Power, Speed, Athleticism.

              What does Floyd have that a prime RJJ didn't have?
              He can fight better against the ropes/ on the inside and overall better defense.

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                #87
                Originally posted by DiLLiNGER
                Floyd beat better fighters than pacquiao..cotto..corrales..pacquiaos last few wins were all at "catchweight"..floyd beat hatton when he was in his prime..a healthy oscar de la hoya don't forget ok!

                Everytime pac fought someone good he strugled or he lost like morales or barrera or even jmm..and its funny but we all know what roach said before pac fought his last 3 or 4 people ..either they couldn't pull the trigger anymore or they're damaged goods..that's what he said not me!!
                What?

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  fundamentally skilled, Roy never had that he got by speed and athleticism. Just like Ali when he was Cassius Clay he got put speed and athleticism. But, pure boxing skill Floyd has it bro. He is fundamentally sound Roy can not touch him on that. Really Floyd could be fighting for 10 more years and still be competitive against anybody. Just like how Hopkins is now. When Roy speed and athleticism was not what it use to be. You saw him drop off. You saw get hit more. Floyd won't have that problem. Even when his speed and athleticism goes. He will still have that defense, he will still have that I.Q, he will still have the fundamental, and he will still be a very skillful fighter.
                  Great post

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                  • ThePunchingBag
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    fundamentally skilled, Roy never had that he got by speed and athleticism. Just like Ali when he was Cassius Clay he got put speed and athleticism. But, pure boxing skill Floyd has it bro. He is fundamentally sound Roy can not touch him on that. Really Floyd could be fighting for 10 more years and still be competitive against anybody. Just like how Hopkins is now. When Roy speed and athleticism was not what it use to be. You saw him drop off. You saw get hit more. Floyd won't have that problem. Even when his speed and athleticism goes. He will still have that defense, he will still have that I.Q, he will still have the fundamental, and he will still be a very skillful fighter.
                    I absolutely don't agree.

                    Floyd is fragile as it is, doesn't punch hard enough to get his opponents respect and has yet to face an elite WW to test his supposed "Boxing skills".

                    His fundamentals are what you would expect from someone who's been boxing all his life, but everything else is complete and utter **** compared to RJJ.

                    While it is true that RJJ depended on his physical gifts rather than boxing skills, his physical gifts alone were far greater than anything Floyd Mayweather Jr. puts on the table. If prime Roy fought against a prime Floyd, Roy would knock Mayweather into all kinds of space. Roy was the complete package. The only thing Floyd has going for him is his "fundamentals" and his speed, which compared to RJJ's speed is laughable.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
                      I absolutely don't agree.

                      Floyd is fragile as it is, doesn't punch hard enough to get his opponents respect and has yet to face an elite WW to test his supposed "Boxing skills".

                      His fundamentals are what you would expect from someone who's been boxing all his life, but everything else is complete and utter **** compared to RJJ.

                      While it is true that RJJ depended on his physical gifts rather than boxing skills, his physical gifts alone were far greater than anything Floyd Mayweather Jr. puts on the table. If prime Roy fought against a prime Floyd, Roy would knock Mayweather into all kinds of space. Roy was the complete package. The only thing Floyd has going for him is his "fundamentals" and his speed, which compared to RJJ's speed is laughable.
                      Floyd has power to demand respect. Floyd has the skills the bro. And, true he has not fought an elite WW yet. But, a little known fact about Roy is that he never ever in none of the weight-class he fought in fought the #1 guy of that weight-class. He never did. Not at MW. SMW, LHW, or HW. We can say that Floyd did fight the #1 guys in 3 of the 5 weight-class he fought in.

                      So if you going to **** on Floyd for not fighting an elite WW. Then you have to **** on Roy too. Lets not use double standards. P4P skills bro Floyd has it over Roy... Roy was more dynamic, he was more exciting, but skill wise he was not better.

                      And, now I am pissed off cuz you got me defending Floyd...

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