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  • Mr. Chago
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    #191
    Originally posted by jltsmae
    I don't think MP is worried. He just does not want to be bullied...

    If Floyd really wants this (EASY) FIGHT with one dimensioanal ordinary fighter as what he said, then he has no reason to worry about... He should agree the blood test right after the fight.. forget about GBP/USADA RANDOM BLOOD TEST... fight!!!!
    For 25+million dollars nobody gives a **** about a drug tests period!...only if their not clean or won´t be able to use whatever he´s using and hence not have that advantage, THE BULLIED sht is total BS

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    • boxing77
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      #192
      im sure both pac and mayweather have used performance enhancing drugs!!!!!lok at pacs face at times,and look carefully at floyds jaw at times talk about an ENLARGED JAW but its boxing folks,not minature golf!!!!the only people floyd fools are people that dont know **** about elevated testosteron and side efects!!!! THE ONLY THING IN QUESTION IS WHAT KIND OF DUCK FLOYD IS? got to be a pretty mallard!!!!

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      • kingfaze19
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        #193
        Originally posted by K-Nan
        Pacquiao is light years ahead of Mayweather, huh?

        Well let's see if he can conclusively prove that to the world by allowing the fight to happen.
        like i said , check the resume, we could argue all day , resume's dont argue, they state the facts of who is truly the best

        he beat marquez in his true weight , not a balloned 144 pound marquez .

        he beat a prime barrera , then beat him again

        he beat hall of famer morales

        he destroyed hes "biggest opponent" cotto

        he upset de la hoya.... pacquiao's list of opposition is way ahead of floyd's

        baldomir, gatti, judah, overweight marquez, hatton at 147...

        check the stats

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        • kingfaze19
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          #194
          Originally posted by Igotgame
          Floyd Mayweather moved up from 130 to 154 without getting beaten and no one questions how he was able to do it. But Pac does it and outdoes him and questions arise. I believe that Pac is getting grief because he is Asian fighter. How can an Asian fighter supersede the accomplishment of an American. It is simply preposterous that someone from a 3rd world country can overcome such adversity and become greater.
          Why wasn't there any testing when Mayweather was moving up? Oh, let me see Mayweather was so great that it is a given that he was winning on hard work and talent. But Pac on the other hand must be cheating because it is hard to believe that he can surpass everybody from hard work, dignity and perseverence. How do we know that Mayweather wasn't cheating all those other times. Did he ever subject himself to random blood testing before?? Floyd Mayweather Senior even stated in an interview that steroids won't help you when you can't hit the target. And that junior is far superior in talent over Pac. So please stop with the b.s. Floyd and his fans and nuthugging journalists. LOL.
          great post man , not even a mayweather nuthugger could argue with that

          i like floyd , but im not a nuthugger, just call it for what it is , he showing his fear of pacquiao, plain and simple.

          floyd wants to bend the rules just because he feels like it , hes a joke. he didnt ask any of his opponents to do any of this in the past, but the way pacman is demolishing people is giving floyd second thoughts about facing him. floyd should just be a man a say " im afraid , i want to fight marquez again"

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          • big_james10
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            #195
            A couple of years from now when random blood tests are standard procedure in the sport, all the "bloggers" and "writers" and even the Pac worshippers on this site who are calling Mayweather everything except a child of God for demanding it will be praising it as a way to improve boxer's saftety. However, just like in his 41 fights, no one will give Mayweather any credit.

            This entire matter could easily be resolved if Pacquaio and Arum would be willing to compromise on this matter. This "my-way-or-I'll-fight-Paulie-Malignaggi-or-an-equally-weak-opponent-and-sue-you" crap is nonsense. Mayweather has compromised with the weight penalty and everything else. It's time for Pacquaio to compromise or move on. And, if he chooses to move on, then he and Arum should shut the hell up about it because, I for one, am sick of hearing Arum's constant daily bitching about it.

            The deadline has passed so go ahead and fight Malignaggi as he threatened. However, now Yuri Foreman's name has come up again. What that tells me is that the trhreat to fight Malignaggi was nothing more than posturing and Arum will keep running his mouth up until the day the agreeement to fight Mayweather is announced in about a week.

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            • ROSS CALIFORNIA
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              #196
              Originally posted by Igotgame
              Floyd Mayweather moved up from 130 to 154 without getting beaten and no one questions how he was able to do it. But Pac does it and outdoes him and questions arise. I believe that Pac is getting grief because he is Asian fighter. How can an Asian fighter supersede the accomplishment of an American. It is simply preposterous that someone from a 3rd world country can overcome such adversity and become greater.
              Why wasn't there any testing when Mayweather was moving up? Oh, let me see Mayweather was so great that it is a given that he was winning on hard work and talent. But Pac on the other hand must be cheating because it is hard to believe that he can surpass everybody from hard work, dignity and perseverence. How do we know that Mayweather wasn't cheating all those other times. Did he ever subject himself to random blood testing before?? Floyd Mayweather Senior even stated in an interview that steroids won't help you when you can't hit the target. And that junior is far superior in talent over Pac. So please stop with the b.s. Floyd and his fans and nuthugging journalists. LOL.
              Dude really, this has nothing to do with Pac being a Filipino. Mexican boxers do great and are NEVER questioned. And even suggesting Floyd could be on steroids when he is the one that asked for random testing is just ridiculous. The guy has no power either if you haven't noticed.

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              • Erudite
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                #197
                It seems to me that the problem stems from the innuendo as well as outright statements alluding to PacMan's performance and PED implications. It also seems that giant egos are at play here - on the one hand: I'm bigger than boxing, I dictate the rules of engagement - on the other hand: I'm P4P and have never cheated so I'm not playing your game. In either case egos have derailed fights in the past (example Frazier opting to fight Foreman instead of Ali for more money and parity).

                On another note, and I realize that I posted this once before, there is a relatively recent comparative historical figure to PacMan and his accomplishments. Roberto Duran began his career as a Super Bantanweight (119) and ended it as a Super Middleweight (170). As we all know he held Lightweight, Welterweight and Junior Middleweight championships. That is a 9 weight divison move, and I have no doubt that given the incentive Duran might have held other lower weight titles. In addition Duran and PacMan are almost physically identical with respects to height and reach. Another much older example would be Henry Armstrong (also remarkably similar in height and reach) who held Featherweight, Lightweight and Welterweight titles simutaneously - had there been junior weight divisions during his career - would he not have probably gained more titles also?

                While remarkable, Pacman's accomplishments with respects to weight divisions is not completely unprecendented.

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                • big_james10
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                  #198
                  Originally posted by Igotgame
                  Floyd Mayweather moved up from 130 to 154 without getting beaten and no one questions how he was able to do it. But Pac does it and outdoes him and questions arise. I believe that Pac is getting grief because he is Asian fighter. How can an Asian fighter supersede the accomplishment of an American. It is simply preposterous that someone from a 3rd world country can overcome such adversity and become greater.
                  Why wasn't there any testing when Mayweather was moving up? Oh, let me see Mayweather was so great that it is a given that he was winning on hard work and talent. But Pac on the other hand must be cheating because it is hard to believe that he can surpass everybody from hard work, dignity and perseverence. How do we know that Mayweather wasn't cheating all those other times. Did he ever subject himself to random blood testing before?? Floyd Mayweather Senior even stated in an interview that steroids won't help you when you can't hit the target. And that junior is far superior in talent over Pac. So please stop with the b.s. Floyd and his fans and nuthugging journalists. LOL.
                  Moving from 130 to 154 (24 pounds) is a lot different from moving from 106 to 154 (48 pounds) as Pac is considering, especially when you get KO'd at 110 and 112 pounds along the way The Pac worshippers were bragging about the fact that he movd from 106 to 147 before, but now that people are questioning the legitimacy of it, you are crying foul. Floyd moved up in weight, but when Floyd moved up, he never got hit like Cotto hit Pacquaio. James Toney moved up from 160 to heavyweight, but the reason he was able to do that is because he has been able to avoid being hit by Mike Tyson or someone who punches like Tyson. However, you may be right. Mayweather may have been cheating. Pac might have also. That is an excellent argument for the blood tests.
                  Last edited by big_james10; 12-29-2009, 07:51 PM.

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                  • big_james10
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                    #199
                    Originally posted by Erudite
                    On another note, and I realize that I posted this once before, there is a relatively recent comparative historical figure to PacMan and his accomplishments. Roberto Duran began his career as a Super Bantanweight (119) and ended it as a Super Middleweight (170). As we all know he held Lightweight, Welterweight and Junior Middleweight championships. That is a 9 weight divison move, and I have no doubt that given the incentive Duran might have held other lower weight titles. In addition Duran and PacMan are almost physically identical with respects to height and reach. While remarkable, Pacman's accomplishments with respects to weight divisions is not completely unprecendented.
                    I agree with this comment. However, the difference I see between the two is that, during Duran's time, there were no PEDs. Also, when Duran fought Sugar Ray Leonard, he was 71-1 and had dominated every division he had fought in. The one fight he lost at that point was a decision loss and he had never really been in danger of being KO'd. Pac was KO'd twice at the lower weights, but was able to walk through a 147 pounder's punches like a robot. I am not saying he is on PEDs, but that raises some red flags for me.

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                    • WESS
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                      #200
                      Originally posted by MOREBASS
                      No, everyone involved including Golden Boy and Team Mayweather are to blame if this fight doesn't get made for any reason.

                      If they are unwilling to compromise and find a cutoff date that pleases Team Pacquiao, and satisfies the requirements for the tests, then everyone is to blame.


                      Remember, had they not requested these tests and let the NSAC do what they've been doing for the past 40 years, and in every one of Mayweather's fights in Las Vegas...we would have been talking strategy and fight outcome, instead of this bull****.
                      You honestly think team Pac thought greedy "MONEY" Mayweather would accept the unheard of and preposterous $10 million penalty if he came in over 147, that Mayweather would agree to the glove and ring size, that greedy "MONEY" Mayweather would accept a 50/50 split, and more importantly you honestly think team Pac thought Mayweather would accept the fight on March 13th?

                      Well he agreed to every request........

                      So why is the fight not happening if it's Mayweather's fault?? Being scared of a needle, having a phobia, and being superstitious is just too G@Y for a grown mans sport of boxing, so that is not answer. Don't even try it... Only **** sticks believe that bull shyt.....

                      BTW, Pac wont make nearly as much going to court AND fighting Malignaggi or Bradley combined as he would fighting Mayweather. So what is he REALLY trying to do?????? Sue and make a few 100K and fight anybody other than Mayweather or is he really trying to hide something?

                      But hey its what ever I like both guys. Mayweather gets paid to be the "BAD GUY", Pac's the one just looking bad.........
                      Last edited by WESS; 12-29-2009, 08:37 PM.

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