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  • HighUnderground
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    #61
    Originally posted by HaymakerJAB
    ur playing reverse psychology lol...GTFOH
    How the hell is that reverse psychology? Do you really think they are going to be up for negotiating if Manny takes them to court and still refuses to take the tests?

    It's silly that people have such blind hatred for Mayweather and blind love for Pacquiao.


    Originally posted by renren40
    how is standing up for yourself making matters worse?
    Because Manny is a fighter and he should do his fighting in the ring. Not the courtroom. If you don't think that filing a lawsuit over this is going to add to the mess, you are in total denial.

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    • The Great Shark
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      #62
      Originally posted by renren40
      prove me wrong....

      you can't
      How can I prove you wrong when nothing has happened yet? Only time will tell and so far it's telling Pacquiao's truth.

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      • royin
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        #63
        Yes they are.

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        • renren40
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          #64
          Originally posted by HighUnderground
          None of your points have any strong merit though.

          Mayweather and GBP agreed to ditch the USADA and pick another organization to do the testing. Sure, you can kinda make the argument that GBP is being hypocritical, but ultimately this was Mayweather's request.

          Making the argument that there is no evidence does not always mean that there is NO su****ion, you are absolutely right about that. However, the difference between this conspiracy theory and the one against Manny is that there have actually been some questionable actions and statements that would make the general public have this su****ion of Manny. While your conspiracy theory actually has facts working AGAINST it.

          Some of these points you are referring to and calling neutral opinions are funny. Seriously, anybody who actually pays attention to boxing knows all the points and counter points for and against Floyd, and every other fighter for that matter. Talk about the issue at hand instead of creating new issues, like this make believe one, and old issues about weight or who fought who when. Both these men want this fight, and both men would fight any man who steps up with the best offer, whoever believes otherwise is being naive.

          Ignoring the actual events that have transpired and trying to turn this into a Mayweather bash-fest does not help Manny's case at all. That is a fact.
          you can't end a sentence with "who when". You should rephrase it. .... and who fought who and when ... or who fought who and what date.

          FIX IT.

          The issue at hand is GBP is demanding, not requesting, that Pacquiao's team comply with imperatives that are nonexistent in their sport or any professional sport in America. Ony in America can a participating athlete can demand and be praised for pressuring the foreign opponent to abide by unprecedented demands. No boxer has EVER had to do what Mayweather is asking. The original unnecessary directive was for Manny provide 15 random samples. (piss and blood)

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          • renren40
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            #65
            Originally posted by Imhotep
            Why would Goldenboy or Floyd do that when they gonna make alot of money off that fight also.Stop thinking Pac is some saint cause he gave a couple of nickles to the homeless.Pac cheating on his wife twice rmember?And he also hang out with a crooked politicians.You a paranoid idiot which you can`t expect no less from a *******.
            Pacquiao has marital problems? wow you really got me there.

            I'm pretty sure Manny has given much more to the community than you,

            I have not accused GBP, DLH, and the Mayweather camp of tampering.

            I am just merely saying that there is su****ioun.

            Something is not right.

            DLH and USADA officials orchestrating plans for months.

            I think it is wise for NSAC or testing agencies that the NFL or MLB to conduct the testing. These agencies are not closer to one fighter. There is no favortism.

            There is a cloud of shadiness hovering Schaeffer.

            "Whatever tests they want them to take, Shane will submit to that. We are not going to do other tests than the Nevada commission requires," Schaefer said. "The fact is Shane is not a cheater and he does not need to be treated like one."

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            • renren40
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              #66
              Originally posted by HighUnderground
              How the hell is that reverse psychology? Do you really think they are going to be up for negotiating if Manny takes them to court and still refuses to take the tests?

              It's silly that people have such blind hatred for Mayweather and blind love for Pacquiao.




              Because Manny is a fighter and he should do his fighting in the ring. Not the courtroom. If you don't think that filing a lawsuit over this is going to add to the mess, you are in total denial.
              Manny has rights that he feels has been violated. There is nothing wrong with praticing your right to defend yourself. He will not have to do much fighting since evidence of slander is there for all to hear, see, and read. Plus his legal team have a head start on the situation.

              This is not news. Manny was considering this lawsuit while training for Cotto. Mayweather SR and Mayweather Camp have conducted press releases, press conferences, and interviews to purposely ruin Pacquiao.

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              • HighUnderground
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                #67
                Originally posted by renren40
                you can't end a sentence with "who when". You should rephrase it. .... and who fought who and when ... or who fought who and what date.

                FIX IT.

                The issue at hand is GBP is demanding, not requesting, that Pacquiao's team comply with imperatives that are nonexistent in their sport or any professional sport in America. Ony in America can a participating athlete can demand and be praised for pressuring the foreign opponent to abide by unprecedented demands. No boxer has EVER had to do what Mayweather is asking. The original unnecessary directive was for Manny provide 15 random samples. (piss and blood)
                Well, that is one error. I thought there were more since that is what you implied by using the plural form of the word "sentence".

                Seriously, you are a joke. I would call you a Grammar ****, but the truth is you are really just devoid of rational thought. Rather than address the points I made, you just tried to attack a typo and went right back to spewing the same points that we have already heard.

                I feel bad for Manny, even if he is hiding something. Because fans like you are making the whole side of his argument seem desperate and moronic.

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                • HighUnderground
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by renren40
                  Manny has rights that he feels has been violated. There is nothing wrong with praticing your right to defend yourself. He will not have to do much fighting since evidence of slander is there for all to hear, see, and read. Plus his legal team have a head start on the situation.

                  This is not news. Manny was considering this lawsuit while training for Cotto. Mayweather SR and Mayweather Camp have conducted press releases, press conferences, and interviews to purposely ruin Pacquiao.

                  So now boxers should sue each other rather than fighting in the ring? Are you truly incapable of seeing how that could have a negative backlash on Manny?

                  I know. You must be a lawyer who is privy to the detailed information of the case because you clearly have no doubt that Manny will win the court battle. Even though libel, slander, and defamation lawsuits are notoriously hard to win when dealing with public figures. Clearly though, you know more than the rest of us.

                  Arum has no problem booking Malignaggi as a replacement, and he has been much more vocal about his opinions that Floyd Jr. Paulie basically came right out and said that he thinks Manny is doping. Why isn't he suing Malignaggi also?
                  Last edited by HighUnderground; 12-29-2009, 12:24 AM.

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                  • renren40
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by HighUnderground
                    So now boxers should sue each other rather than fighting in the ring? Are you truly incapable of seeing how that could have a negative backlash on Manny?

                    I know. You must be a lawyer who is privy to the detailed information of the case because you clearly have no doubt that Manny will win the court battle. Even though libel, slander, and defamation lawsuits are notoriously hard to win when dealing with public figures. Clearly though, you know more than the rest of us.

                    Arum has no problem booking Malignaggi as a replacement, and he has been much more vocal about his opinions that Floyd Jr. Paulie basically came right out and said that he thinks Manny is doping. Why isn't he suing Malignaggi also?
                    1. He is suing his father and the Mayweather company. Sr is the one that made the accusations. GBP made it public along with Mayweather camp.

                    2. I'm not a lawyer. I have common sense. Manny's lawyers would not advise this action without confidence of victory. Plus unfortunately money talks in court as well. Ask OJ.

                    3. Floyd Sr started his accusations months ago. Nothing happens overnight. Paulie expressed his opinion when asked. Mayweather's people made it an objective of the day to escalate doubt of Manny's clean reputation.

                    how about them .... apples

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                    • renren40
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by HighUnderground
                      Well, that is one error. I thought there were more since that is what you implied by using the plural form of the word "sentence".

                      Seriously, you are a joke. I would call you a Grammar ****, but the truth is you are really just devoid of rational thought. Rather than address the points I made, you just tried to attack a typo and went right back to spewing the same points that we have already heard.

                      I feel bad for Manny, even if he is hiding something. Because fans like you are making the whole side of his argument seem desperate and moronic.
                      1. I'm not getting paid to find your numerous grammar errors.

                      2. This is my thread so I do not have to address your questions. BTW I need you to provide 3 blood samples and 12 urine in a 10 week span prior to posting in ths thread ever.

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