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  • MindBat
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    #21
    Originally posted by renren40
    NSAC is the standard since all professional sports in America use a similar system.

    USADA not necessary.

    It does not matter the agency....anyone can be paid off.
    That's real smart on the part of Arum who, with Manny's blessings, never once protested using the USADA before he started negotiation procedures.

    We would have never heard about the USADA had they first said that the NSAC was more than capable of providing reliable test results.

    But making up false excuses seemed to be the better route to take..

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    • renren40
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      #22
      Originally posted by MindBat
      These guys have nothing else to blame Mayweather for, so the next best thing is create some crap from imagination and hope that it might, by some,
      super powers, be forever true.

      I hate to be so blunt, but your ship is slowly sinking, and the life preservers are all taken.

      It's sad.

      But maybe on the next try you'll hit the bullseye.
      It's funny how these demands were not around for Mosley or even Vargas.

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      • renren40
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        #23
        Originally posted by MindBat
        That's real smart on the part of Arum who, with Manny's blessings, never once protested using the USADA before he started negotiation procedures.

        We would have never heard about the USADA had they first said that the NSAC was more than capable of providing reliable test results.

        But making up false excuses seemed to be the better route to take..
        Arum's and Mayweather's negative history should not be disregarded either..

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        • renren40
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          #24
          No one is accusing anyone of anything.

          We just want to even the playing field.

          There are reasons for su****ioun.

          Something is FISHYabout the timing of this situation.

          Schaeffer denied random testing for Mosley.
          Something does not seem right about that.

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          • MindBat
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            #25
            Originally posted by renren40
            No one is accusing anyone of anything.

            We just want to even the playing field.

            There are reasons for su****ioun.

            Something is FISHYabout the timing of this situation.

            Schaeffer denied random testing for Mosley.
            Something does not seem right about that.
            Listen carefully, There- was- no- clause- in- Mosley's- contract- to- undergo- additional- random- testing- before- his- fights.

            If you can find the clause in the contract demanding that Mosley undergo additional random testing, I will stand corrected.

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            • renren40
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              #26
              From another thread and another post

              WHAT MAY NOT BE APPARENT TO FANS IS THAT THE PACMAN WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL IN DERAILING COMPLETELY THE ASININE PLANS OF THE MAYWEATHERS AND GBP. THESE EVIL CREATURES WILL NEVER -- AS IN NEVER -- EARN ANYTHING AT PACQUIAO'S EXPENSE. OSKIE'S ATTEMPT TO ERASE HIS MOST EMBARRASSING LOSS, AND FOR MAYWEATHER TO PROVIDE FORWARD COVER FOR HIS INEVITABLE LOSS, THROUGH DESTROYING PACMAN'S REPUTATION WILL NEVER COME TO BE.

              YOU SAY PACQUIAO IS WALKING AWAY FROM USD30 MILLION??? DID MAYWEATHER PIGLETS FORGOT THAT FLOYDIE COWARDIE WILL LOSE USD30 MILLION WITH CERTAINTY, AND ALL THOSE PERCENTAGES OF OSKIE, ELLERBIE AND ALL OTHER DE****ABLE MAYWEATHER HANGERS-ON CAN BE KISSED GOODBYE???? HAR! HAR! HAR!

              TRULY THE LOW LEVEL INTELLIGENCE OF THESE GREEDY MAYWEATHERS AND GBP CAN ALWAYS BE RELIED ON TO RUIN THEM.

              PACQUIAO CAN EARN A LOT OF MONEY FIGHTING JUST ABOUT ANYBODY. WHETHER YOU SEE HIM AS A HERO OR A CHEAT, YOU WILL STILL WANT TO SEE HIM FIGHT, IF FOR NO OTHER REASON THAT NO OTHER BOXER FIGHTS THE WAY HE DOES.

              OH, I FORGOT!!!! PACMAN IS WILLING TO UNDERGO ALL THE APPROPRIATE CLEANLINESS TESTS!!!! HAR! HAR! HAR! BUT IT WON'T BE MAYWEATHER WHO WOULD BENEFIT FROM SUCH TESTS!!!!

              MAYWEATHER VS. MATTHEW HATTON, MAYWEATHER VS. FLORES ISLAND PYGMIES, MAYWEATHER VS. THE STINKING IMP MOANING "MY PRECIOUS", HAR! HAR! HAR! THAT IS ALL THAT IS LEFT OF FLOYDIE. GIVE THE GUY AND HIS PYGMY FRIENDS HIS BEGGING BOWL, AS HE WILL SOON HAVE TO PAY UP TO SOME VICIOUS LOAN COLLECTORS IN HIS HOMETOWN.....

              WHY IS IT THAT IT IS ALWAYS THE DIRTIEST GUYS WHO ARE BAWLING OUT THAT OTHER GUYS MUST BE CLEAN????

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              • HighUnderground
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                #27
                Originally posted by renren40
                NSAC is the standard since all professional sports in America use a similar system.

                USADA not necessary.

                It does not matter the agency....anyone can be paid off.
                I agree that anybody can be paid off, Bob Arum knows a thing or two about that. So, how deep do you really want to travel down the rabbit hole with a topic like this? I mean, do you think that NSAC has never been corrupted? You said yourself, that mistakes are "likely" made when doing testing, why is the NSAC free from question about the validity of all their results?

                Now, I like Manny. I want this whole thing to be resolved and him to clear his name, but the fact is that we know people can beat the urine testing. Trying to deny that is like trying to swim against the current in a tidal wave.

                Manny's hardcore supporters are never going to budge on the topic, but the fact remains that Manny looks su****ious to a lot of fans, and even Keith Kizer said that it is an issue that the two camps should work out between themselves. Of course he is not going to say that the NSAC should rework the system they are using, because that would make him look bad. He don't really wanna get involved in the mudslinging.

                The truth is, the idea of completely random blood and urine testing is the most logical way to test athletes. The World Anti Doping Code gives a pretty thorough explanation of what are the measures that should be used when preparing individual testing plans. It's actually sad that the NSAC doesn't do MORE blood testing.

                For the record, I think the idea of completely random blood and urine testing is something that should be done across the board. Not just for this fight.

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                • MindBat
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by renren40
                  Arum's and Mayweather's negative history should not be disregarded either..
                  It would have no bearing whatsoever in these negotiations.

                  Unless you're trying to dig up old stuff for lawsuit material which will still be irrelevant if they do choose to go forward with a lawsuit.

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                  • norrin
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by renren40
                    Do you think they are capable of paying off USADA or any drug testing agencies to tamper with Manny's blood or urine samples?

                    After all, it was their idea and their connection.
                    They are adamant about giving blood.
                    They could care less about him providing piss for some reason.

                    Something is FISH here. Something does not seem right.

                    Mayweather did buy 2 extra pounds against JMM.

                    DLH does have a motive to get back at Pacquiao. Pacquiao chose TOP RANK.
                    Schaeffer clearly does not like the fact that Pacquiao is about to slide away from obligations to GBP.

                    The su****ioun is there. Something just isn't right about the timing.

                    Biggest money fight comes around and BAM there's USADA all of a sudden.

                    What are your thoughts?
                    I feel strangely less intelligient for even voting in this poll because it is utterly ridiculous.

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                    • renren40
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by MindBat
                      Listen carefully, There- was- no- clause- in- Mosley's- contract- to- undergo- additional- random- testing- before- his- fights.

                      If you can find the clause in the contract demanding that Mosley undergo additional random testing, I will stand corrected.
                      "Whatever tests they want them to take, Shane will submit to that. We are not going to do other tests than the Nevada commission requires," Schaefer said. "The fact is Shane is not a cheater and he does not need to be treated like one."

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