Comments Thread For: Mayweather, Golden Boy Hit Back at Pacquiao/Top Rank

[spinika7]

A decline by Manny doesn't necessarily equate that he is positive of PEDs. It can simply mean that he is against Mayweather's assertion of his demands.

NSAC is the agency and the sole right to govern it's laws, enforce its laws, foresee fairness and determine eligibility of its licensed boxers.

Mayweather is a boxer like Pacquiao, he cannot enforce such demands. Though you are right that Mayweather's demands can definitely check Pacquiao's "cleanliness" or integrity, but it isn't Mayweather's job nor his role to enforce anything.

Pacquiao can also make demands towards Mayweather.

The point is an agreement between boxers should have a pre-requisite of having to satisfy first and foremost, the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

Not the Mayweather Demand Commission.

I agree. Declining does not mean he is on PED's. More and more im starting to think he isn't and he just really does not want to fight Floyd and is looking for a way out. Or maybe he just feels he needs a tune up before floyd. That would be fine too. Lord knows Floyd is the fighter that has been relatively inactive.....he would benefit much more from a tune up than Manny.

[Championart]

Again I would likely agree with you except for one thing, the accusations came out of the Mayweather camp prior to those statements being made my Ariza, so the seeds were already sown before Ariza spoke, what he said had no bearing on the request.

There were already su****ions about Pac before and what Ariza said made it worst therefore the request. How do you think anyone ever gets caught. Hopkins was su****ious of Trinidads wraps and therefore requested that his trainer be in Trinidads room when he was wrapping his hands and thats how he caught Trinidad.

Mosely was su****ious of Margorito and requested that his trainer be in the room when was wrapping his hands and thats how Margorito got caught. Thats how it works, you are su****ious of something you get it checked out. You saw what happened to Cotto.

Mayweahter's request is nothing different than those. Its a su****ion that he is requesting to be checked out. Simple better be safe than sorry when your life is on the line.

[AIR_KENG]

Golden Boy admits Pacquiao took a blood test two weeks before he crippled Hatton - AND HE TESTED CLEAN.

this should settle the dispute... good one BPP...

[jetgeomcx]

Haha.....you guys have been completely and comprehensively OWNED. You are in a state of denial. You can't come up with any reasonable arguments to defend Manny's actions in this negotiation process so now have resorted to claims mayweather in using PEd's.

You are pathetic and laughable!!!!!

nobody owns anybody.....not you, not me!!
yes, i say that floyd mayweather is on peds since a long time ago.
like you and others can say that manny is on ped.

the cat is now out of the bag!!
oscar has been discussing "things" with the usada since 3-4 months ago about manny pacquiao.
gbp is plotting sinister about manny's person and accomplishments.
gbp and usada are in cahoots...there is pre-conceived, pre-meditated, planned and orchestrated attemp to malign manny.
top rank is preparing another case against gbp.....

everything becomes nasty and dirty.
thanks to the malicious accusation of senior, perpetrated by floyd, schafer and oscar.
they will have to face the consequences of their malicious action in court.
then...some people will get owned

Random blood testing is a contractual clause that Team Mayweather have requested. Just like the 10 mil per pound over 147 is a contractual term proposed by Pac camp. NSAC has nothing to do with the 10mil penalty per pound over 147 just like they have nothing to do with the contract term for random testing from an outside agency by Team Mayweather.

Manny does not want RANDOM blood testing or any blood tests for PED's 30 days leading into the fight. So he has rejected a contractual term the mayweathers want in order for this figh to happen. It is Manny's right to do so.

A contractual term if agreed to by both parties can circumvent NSAC.

My question is simple......why doesn't Manny want to allow it?????????

the random testing was not in the original proposed contract.
it was huriedly included by team floyd after manny unexpectedly agreed to urine and blood testings.

and the usada came into the picture... where the top honcho is in tete-a-tete with oscar!!
why would manny accede to floyd's demand knowing something is going on between the usada and gbp.
you can say that this is pure speculation....and that's the point on manny's allege use of peds.

accusations, allegations and what have you are now flying all over....
who the hell started this damn thing!!

This fight is at 147 lbs and not at a catch-weight of 144 lbs. Mayweather has never came heavier than the contractual weight of 147 lbs in his career when that is the terms for the weight. If it was at the catch weight of 144 lbs then it would be a logical concern for Pac. But either way mayweather agreed to the terms due to Pac's concern now why can't Pac agree to a concern of Mayweather?

floyd is considered more a cheat than manny.
something sinister in usada random blood testing.
do we want to hear manny say he doesn't trust usada, gbp and floyd??
i don't trust them myself now.......why would manny??
you want to hear more accusations??
well...gbp is lining the pockets of usada ...there!
see you all in court

[jetgeomcx]

If manny suffered from Trypanophobia as was claimed by members in his camp he would not have any tattoos period!!!!!!

Yet he is so relaxed he snacks whilst getting tatts done.

Arum and the rest of those fools put their foot in their mouth!!!

and where did you get the idea that manny is afraid of needles??!
you just read it from posters who know nothing, who speculate and accuse.
manny is never afraid of needles.....as proven by his tattoos. FACT!
don't believe anything you read and hear.
read some more and make an educated analysis of everything....
so you don't put your foot in your mouth.

[spinika7]

and where did you get the idea that manny is afraid of needles??!
you just read it from posters who know nothing, who speculate and accuse.
manny is never afraid of needles.....as proven by his tattoos. FACT!
don't believe anything you read and hear.
read some more and make an educated analysis of everything....
so you don't put your foot in your mouth.

I got the idea because it came straight out of Bob Arum's mouth.....dip****.....get your lips off mannys **** and come up for some air bro......you seem to be suffering hypoxia.....

[MindBat]

and where did you get the idea that manny is afraid of needles??!
you just read it from posters who know nothing, who speculate and accuse.
manny is never afraid of needles.....as proven by his tattoos. FACT!
don't believe anything you read and hear.
read some more and make an educated analysis of everything....
so you don't put your foot in your mouth.

When the rumors started flying about the claims Arum publicly made of Manny's needle phobia, where was Manny and his advisors publicly stating the opposite? Why didn't they immediately come out and correct Arum's false assumptions rather than let them grow bigger and bigger for the whole world to start spreading?

Where's Manny's written or videotaped statement saying Arum was wrong?

Can you answer that?

[fabie]

I agree. Declining does not mean he is on PED's. More and more im starting to think he isn't and he just really does not want to fight Floyd and is looking for a way out. Or maybe he just feels he needs a tune up before floyd. That would be fine too. Lord knows Floyd is the fighter that has been relatively inactive.....he would benefit much more from a tune up than Manny.

I think that sounds fair.

I think that the Pacquiao camp really felt the pressure of having to face Mayweather too soon and without the plan to fight him before the elections. The Mayweather camp, however sees this as a opportunity to "coerce" Pacquiao into a mental game.

I firmly believe that Pacquiao and Roach wanted to fight Mayweather by around May or September.

If that is the case, I think so too because:

• Pacquiao really wanted to "rest" after the Cotto fight
• Train for the fight of his career
• Can concentrate better after the elections (win or lose)
• More promotional time for both Top Rank and GBP

Why must it be by March? Because of Mayweather's demands?

Again, this doesn't mean that Pacquiao didn't want to fight Mayweather but an issue of timing.

Thus all of these, are the backdrop of Mayweather's demands of pressuring Pacquiao into a random blood testing.

It would be smarter for Pacquiao to delay the fight until he is ready rather than risk a lost to Mayweather.

In that light, what's wrong with either May or September instead of everybody rushing them into March 13?

[jetgeomcx]

I got the idea because it came straight out of Bob Arum's mouth.....dip****.....get your lips off mannys **** and come up for some air bro......you seem to be suffering hypoxia.....

as i said......make an educated analysis yourself!!
don't you have any mind or brain of your own???
u don't know bob arum, i guess.
and so you believe all he says...bait, line, sinker and rod!

tell me, from your own mind,...is manny afraid of needles??

[peerless]

this should settle the dispute... good one BPP...

What it does settle is, that you're one a few who didn't bother reading through the thread. Myself and a few others have commented that the "MEDICAL TEST" Manny underwent 14 days prior to the Hatton fight, was simple blood work. No test for drugs were done, only for infectious diseases, i.e, AIDS, Hepatitis, etc!