Bob Arum: Blames Schaefer and "that creep Oscar" for poisoning Mayweather-Pacquiao

[BROOKLYN CESAR]

i think pacquiao is taking the test for malignaggi.

that's what i got from what arum said "to shut malignaggi up too."



the most interesting i got from that is they're trying to get golden boy's promotional rights of pacquiao off.

i didn't even know golden boy makes money off of pacquiao when he doesn't fight golden boy fighters.

very interesting.

if they can prove golden boy was trying to hurt pacquiao's image , they can make a case to void golden boy's rights to pacquiao.

hmmm......

If thats true i think pac is a ***wit he couldve done the mayweather fight!!! whose running now???

[stovepipe]

Pac is giving up $50 million

Floyd is giving up the same thing, then. And to think Pac would still be taking a lot of blood and urine tests including directly after.

What did they want to accomplish?

If Manny is dirty, then you could say they are going to make him fight fair and thus diminish him and help Floyd's chances greatly, assuming he is 1)dirty and 2)they can catch it and thus stop Pac from using

When you look into the situation, all the evidence points to Pac being clean as a whistle, so in all likelihood he isn't dirty. Which leaves us with the idea that Floyd and team are trying to mess with Manny's head to gain an advantage that way, rattle his cage and possibly also promote the fight at the same time, even negative publicity is good publicity...but if that is the case, they would agree to Arum's final offer. Rattling and publicity accomplished.

Floyd has stated how easy a fight Pacquiao would be for him. You would think he would jump at the huge huge huge payday if that was the case, steroids or no steroids.... and steroids when? If they are taking his blood at the press conference, 30 days away and then again after the fight, and his piss as much as they want, the scenario that Pac is using roids becomes more and more hypothetical.

So did Floyd really want this fight? Combine this fight with the second Oscar fight and Floyd has blown off what? Fifty, sixty million dollars? Add to that the fights he missed while he was off and you could say he lost eighty million dollars.

Does Floyd just not want to look like he is running, so he is trying to make the negotiations difficult so when he bows out he can save face?

I honestly don't know. To me though, I think Floyd is somewhat afraid of losing to Pacquiao no matter the cash, its hard to say....will he really go fight Mathew Hatton? That would be unbelievable if he did.

It seems Floyd has to make this fight if he is as cash poor as many think. Or if not cash poor, has tons of bills. Pretty much the whole welterweight division is dangerous for him and way less money involved so he has to make this fight.....maybe he is more afraid of simply losing maybe he fears he will take a terrible beating, a KO loss........

I mean, if he REALLY thought he could kick Manny's ass you would think he would take the fight. I know some will say that about Manny, but I think Manny doesn't want his blood ****** out so close to the fight and randomly and that is sapps him in those precious final weeks when he is preparing his hardest, a huge distraction, but more than this Arum sees a relationship between Schaefer and the org Shaef wants to use.

I'm laughing because we already know Manny is willing to fight a guy like Cotto.....lets see who Floyd fights........

[Left Hook Tua]

I do find it funny that the fight they have lined up is Malinaggi but he is a legit guy at 140 not that threatening but he is legit and tough. If you want the issue to kind of go away Malinaggi is the last guy they should be fighting, because he will get asked about the issue and is his very outspoken so most likely he would not be quiet on the matter.

i think maybe that's why they picked malignaggi.

from what i read arum said they'll do blood tests with malignaggi to shut him up.

an outspoken critic of pacquiao agrees to fight pacquiao with the same type of blood tests pacquiao proposed to mayweather.

[Left Hook Tua]

If thats true i think pac is a ***wit he couldve done the mayweather fight!!! whose running now???

he ain't no rocket scientist.

that said pac is tough in negotiations. the guy has a huge ego.

remember he was willing to walk away from career paydays with delahoya and hatton.

he would have walked away except oscar and ricky caved in.

[Sudo]

I don't understand one thing.

Arum says they want commision to handle this... But he is willing to have as many urine tests as needed. Isn't this something commsion should also decide? He want's commision to decide on blood tests, but not on frequency of urine tests? Something commsion should take care also, if he want's this thing run by commision.

[The Gambler1981]

i think maybe that's why they picked malignaggi.

from what i read arum said they'll do blood tests with malignaggi to shut him up.

an outspoken critic of pacquiao agrees to fight pacquiao with the same type of blood tests pacquiao proposed to mayweather.

I Guess that is one way to go but still I think the best thing to do is just seperate himself from the whole matter, this just keeps the issue at the forefront.

[menoari]

I don't understand one thing.

Arum says they want commision to handle this... But he is willing to have as many urine tests as needed. Isn't this something commsion should also decide? He want's commision to decide on blood tests, but not on frequency of urine tests? Something commsion should take care also, if he want's this thing run by commision.

Good point about the different levels of acceptability between blood and urine test for Pac.

By itself, it could still be argued that the difference lies in what blood and urine test can and cannot show or prove.

As I remember the issue evolving, it has been pretty consistently stated by team Pac that urine tests would be available as much and as often as wanted by Team Floyd. The sticking point has always been the blood testing. Make it out as you wish ...

IMO I kinda agree with Tua that this could still be a massive and unorthodox PR campaign for the Pac - Floyd fight. Infinetely better than Pac - Paulie.

[Mr. Philadel]

Arum is a old fool....he's a fool because he REALLY thinks that the boxing fans are fools.....we believe EVERYTHING fighters, promoters, reporters and commentators says.....right?!?.......Arum may the REAL reason this fight is gettin' scratched like a bad itch.......he talks a good one tho'.....he has this acting game down to a science.....blame GBP and NOT your old ass is a typical ***** move by a typical ***** mover!!......now throw Paulie in the mix and act like Timothy Bradley hasn't showed any interest!!

[BritishBoxing92]

i hope the pac and ***** camp come up with some sort of negotioation so then the fight can happen

[stovepipe]

Arum is a old fool....he's a fool because he REALLY thinks that the boxing fans are fools.....we believe EVERYTHING fighters, promoters, reporters and commentators says.....right?!?.......Arum may the REAL reason this fight is gettin' scratched like a bad itch.......he talks a good one tho'.....he has this acting game down to a science.....blame GBP and NOT your old ass is a typical ***** move by a typical ***** mover!!......now throw Paulie in the mix and act like Timothy Bradley hasn't showed any interest!!

well there is a pink army of *****s that never so much as made a peep about steroids until this fight simply because The Fraudulent One (my new name for Floyd) brought it up, so yeah I would say people are influenced pretty heavily by BS. Why was this never an issue before now?