Extra steroid test = A way for Floyd to SAVE FACE

[daggum]

fantasy floyd is a sad person. he gets jealous pacquiao is called the best and tries to disparage his reputation. he wants so badly to be the best but doesn't know you have to earn that title by fighting the best not fighting tune ups or baldomir. he wants all the accolades of being the best without risking anything. "oh look at my skills im the best" oh look who you fought you aren't. how far will his "skills" argument take him?

he would never ever step into the ring with pac and evidence of this can be found by looking at the last 8 years of his career. so how can he beat pacquiao without stepping into the ring? make false claims to get public support on his side and turn against pacquiao. scum.

[General Zod]

I always thought this fight was to good, but I expected it to fall apart due to the money split not over drug testing, but hey thats boxing.

As for Jones Hopkins, I hope Jones wins and then retires

[DonTaseMeBrah]

Your reasoning would have made more sense if:

1. Manny himself had called out Floyd on live TV and not left it up to his fans to do it.

2. Arum and Team Pacquiao had refused Olympic-style drug testing from the start instead of agreeing to play along.

3. If Floyd had refused to be tested randomly like Pacquiao would have been. Instead, Floyd agreed to be tested in the most effective way to quell any doubts and concerns about being clean and making it a fair fight.

1. Manny never calls anybody out. From 112 to 147 & all the divisions in between, Manny never calls anybody out.

2. Arum has talked about this. He admits he made a mistake even entertaining the thought of extra testing never been done before. Arum said that he should have said take it up to the commission. Arum negotiates for pac. Pac is thousands of miles away & Arum should have taken it up with pac a lot sooner.

3. Whose doubts? Pac who is a first ballot hall of famer, not to mention the 1# p4p fighter in the world & arguably its biggest star should bow down & be dictated to because steroid expert Floyd Sr. has doubts?

GTF outta here.

It would be completely understandable if there was grand jury testimony saying Pac used roids.

It would be completely understandable if there was a steroid expert a la victor conte accusing Pac of steroid use.

It would be completely understandable if there was bloody guazes saved up & a ex trainer accusing pac of steroid use a la brian mcnamee & roger clemens.

It would be completely understandable if Pac has failed a steroid test.


What is not understandable is there is no evidence of steroid use against pac whatsoever against pac yet you have a undefeated bigger fighter who is 40-0 & has never asked for extra testing before, yet claim pac & marquez are too small for him & they would be easy work but doesnt want to fight under las vegas commission rules like he & pac has for their whole career.

[horge]

I just sent a reply on this and it didnt go through. THE CSAC have random testing like the USADA in both blood and urine. It caught 65 people in its first year alone, if the arum people dont want the USADA people they can have an impartial agency do it.

The real issue is that Arum wants no blood random testing within 30 days of the fight and the mayweather people object to it.

CSAC?
Floyd won't fight anywhere but Nevada, and guess what:

Arum wanted to take it up with NSAC, and if NSAC signed
onto random blood testing, then it would've been game on...
If NSAC said '2-days cutoff', Pac would've had no choice but
to give blood accordingly.

How hard would it have been for NSAC to hire the same labs
used/contracted by CSAC? The cutoff disagreement gets all
the press, but there's that core sticking point: whether NSAC
would be in charge.

Hey, if reform was the object, why not get NSAC to sign onto
random blood testing? I doubt NSAC would have said no, as
there was enough money involved to make them want to
make the fight happen, but Floyd's people did not want the
NSAC to be in charge of random testing. They wanted the
org of their original choice, USADA.

The obvious option of NSAC 'hiring' USADA to do the job
was apparently no good, either. Same USADA lab coats,
same USADA protocols, so why not? Just becase NSAC
would be on top of things? That's bull****.

Objecting to NSAC's involvement is anti-reform.
It makes no sense, unless: doubt is cast on the integrity of
USADA or NSAC (one of them could/couldn't be bought off);
or else the whole demand for random blood testing was just
a tool of psy-war, albeit used clumsily.

There are those who say it was worse, a way for Floyd to
avoid Pac, but given the $$$$$$ involved (always Floyd's
stated priority), believing THAT would have to require both
belief and evidence that Floyd came out of retirement with
no intention of fighting any quality opposition at all.

h.

[RoyJonesJrp4pno1]

Why change the existing drug test now?

Is it because of a mere speculation by a convicted drug pusher?

If ain't broke why fix it...

It is broke. Thats how well known cheats like Mosley can never fail a test.

[Vasyl’s dad]

It is broke. Thats how well known cheats like Mosley can never fail a test.

[MindBat]

1. Manny never calls anybody out. From 112 to 147 & all the divisions in between, Manny never calls anybody out.

2. Arum has talked about this. He admits he made a mistake even entertaining the thought of extra testing never been done before. Arum said that he should have said take it up to the commission. Arum negotiates for pac. Pac is thousands of miles away & Arum should have taken it up with pac a lot sooner.

3. Whose doubts? Pac who is a first ballot hall of famer, not to mention the 1# p4p fighter in the world & arguably its biggest star should bow down & be dictated to because steroid expert Floyd Sr. has doubts?

GTF outta here.

It would be completely understandable if there was grand jury testimony saying Pac used roids.

It would be completely understandable if there was a steroid expert a la victor conte accusing Pac of steroid use.

It would be completely understandable if there was bloody guazes saved up & a ex trainer accusing pac of steroid use a la brian mcnamee & roger clemens.

It would be completely understandable if Pac has failed a steroid test.


What is not understandable is there is no evidence of steroid use against pac whatsoever against pac yet you have a undefeated bigger fighter who is 40-0 & has never asked for extra testing before, yet claim pac & marquez are too small for him & they would be easy work but doesnt want to fight under las vegas commission rules like he & pac has for their whole career.

Funny how those points you make are only being brought up AFTER all the excuses Arum and company made to the media for Manny's reluctance to take the tests and not a minute before.

What still hasn't been addressed are:

1. Freddie's public statements that they will pass any tests at any time and how easy Floyd can be beat, even easier than Cotto and Mosley, but they need more time to train because Floyd is a different type of fighter?

Huh? Didn't Freddie just say Floyd is easier to beat than Cotto and Mosley?

2. Arum's public statement that Manny is afraid of needles. A statement which nobody from team Pacquiao stepped up to correct Arum for. A statement which he knew dang well he should've thought about before making it.

3. Ariza's statement about Manny's lack of knowledge about what goes into his own body.

What athlete is totally clueless about what supplements he needs to perform at his best?

4. Freddie's statement that blood drawing weakens Manny knowing dang well that Manny has lost much more blood DURING fights than what was being asked of him.

Why do you guys keep tip-toeing around those points repeatedly and never addressing them head on?

[Bacatit]

All Pacquiao has to do is agree to the random drug test and the fight is on!

No one is forcing Pacquiao to avoid being drug tested properly. The ball is on his side, he can destroy his legacy, cancel the fight, and lose millions of dollars, or... he can take the random blood test which every other athlete has done, secure his legacy, and earn millions of dollars.

It's a no-brainer, unless he has something to hide...

They think it's better that he's an egotistical maniac than a cheater.....That's all

[DonTaseMeBrah]

Funny how those points you make are only being brought up AFTER all the excuses Arum and company made to the media for Manny's reluctance to take the tests and not a minute before.

What still hasn't been addressed are:

1. Freddie's public statements that they will pass any tests at any time and how easy Floyd can be beat, even easier than Cotto and Mosley, but they need more time to train because Floyd is a different type of fighter?

Huh? Didn't Freddie just say Floyd is easier to beat than Cotto and Mosley?

2. Arum's public statement that Manny is afraid of needles. A statement which nobody from team Pacquiao stepped up to correct Arum for. A statement which he knew dang well he should've thought about before making it.

3. Ariza's statement about Manny's lack of knowledge about what goes into his own body.

What athlete is totally clueless about what supplements he needs to perform at his best?

4. Freddie's statement that blood drawing weakens Manny knowing dang well that Manny has lost much more blood DURING fights than what was being asked of him.

Why do you guys keep tip-toeing around those points repeatedly and never addressing them head on?

1. they have passed every test they have taken. & they will pass any test that they agree to take. any test that is required by the commission.

Look, Freddie is very outspoken person. He is not a yes man to pac. He is his own person & will say something that HE might think but not necessarily what Pac might agree on. Roach is no lackey, he is a hall of fame trainer & he has weight.

As for the march date? why bring that up? that is a moot point. Pacquiao agreed to fight May in march. That is not a sticking point.

2. The needle comment. Pacquiao never said it. He couldnt have possibly thought of it as a excuse due to the fact that he has tatoos. Again that is somebody else speaking for him. The guy is thousands of miles away in a third world country where he is a sports star, a movie star, music star, & politician combined into one. I doubt he has the time to offer a rebuttal every single time there is a baseless accusation nor can he control what other people say half a world away.

3. Ariza's comment. That does not prove steroid use. Ariza has no connection nor has been involved in steroid use. I can understand if Ariza was known or has a rich history in steroid use. He has none. What pac puts in his body up to this point has produce no positive steroid results. There are no steroid evidence against Pac. Why are you looking for fire when there is even no smoke?

Never testing for steroids & having no connection to steroid use is not good enough now?

Stop the boxing McCarthyism & witchhunt using the steroid accusation as the Scarlett letter.

If Fraudulent Mayweather jr. agreed to fights & its requirements & regulations the way he has for his last 40 wins without asking for unprecedented & unrequired testing procedures the fight would have been signed, sealed, & delivered.

[Mr. Chago]

This is nothing more than a strategic ploy by the Fraudulent One to save face & have a reason why he didnt fight Pacquiao.

Asking a fighter, a first ballot hall of famer, a icon, 1# p4p best fighter in the world, arguably the biggest star of the sport, a test that has never been asked by any other fighter in the 100 plus year history of professional boxing is a down right insulting to Pacquiao.

The fight not being made due to testing controversy gives Fraudulent jr. a reason to not fight another threatening opponent.

He can say "i wanted to fight pacquiao but he didnt want to do the test." It somehow legitimizes him not fighting pacquiao.

Its a very nefarious yet smart move by mayweather that has backfired. Now more & more boxing scribes are pointing out the hypocrisy & contradictions of golden boy & team mayweather.

It basically gives Mayweather a excuse if he losses & even if Pac beat him & passes all the tests, there will always be that doubt. That is what team mayweather wanted all along.


The fight doesnt get made & Fraudulent jr. gets to save face. He gets to hide behind the extra testing & gets to put blame on Pacquiao.

It is now legitimized to the average schmo, the mainstream fan, the superficial analysis is that Pac is using & ducked the fight with Fraud jr. when in reality & the deeper conclusion is it was Mayweather who was hesitant to get in the ring with Pacquiao.


The hypocrisy of our democracy.

Tell Packy to take the tests and kick PBF A$$...instead of taking it to court