Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Malignaggi Looms; Schaefer Balks at Final Offer

[deejd]

I've been saying this all along

Floyd don't want to fight.

the Mayweathers are shook, Floyd is scared ****less! they don't want none

first 154lbs w/ 10oz gloves, then olympic style testing, then a little "wiggle room", 50/50 gazillion dollars not enough, and now a blood draw a day before the fight. wtf?

Floyd don't want none

easy fight, easy work? yeah right. you scared, yous a *****!

And notice how Floyd complied to meet all of their demands to make this fight happen.

Just answer one question for me..... Who didn't want to take random blood tests throughout training?

[snoopy360]

I get the whole if your clean why not just do it. Believe me I do. I just know that if I hadn't done **** wronge and the cops came up to me on the street and asked me to do a line up for $50 I'd tell them to stick that $50 right up their ********. No freaking way am I taking the chance of someone pointing me out for something I didn't do.

[deejd]

Because it was never an issue until Floyd Sr. made wild accusations about Paq using PED's. Now who is demanding the testing? Floyd Jr.

Seriuosly Paq is the P4P #1. Floyd gave that spot up when he retired and didn't seriously represent the 147 lb title for how many years?

Paq has the right to make the demands. A 50/50 split wasn't an exageration, 8oz gloves wasn't an exageration, the contracted weight wasn't an exageration. What was however was the penalty if Floyd didn't make the weight.

Personally as a Man I find it insulting that these two are letting other people talk for them instead of speaking for themselves. If they want the fight they need to speak up and say exactly what it is they want and what its going to take to make it happen. They are the only two people that are going to fight it out in the ring and if it don't come straight from their mouths then to me its all bull**** smoke and mirrors.

Who's to say Mayweather Sr. is wrong about what he believes is going on? This was the perfect opportunity for Pacquiao to finally shut Sr. up about this because he's been ranting about since the Hatton fight.... but instead, he fed Sr. and folded to the indirect allegation aka sign up for random blood tests and it's a done deal... you get at least $40 million, the chance to KO Mayweather for all these goofs that believe that would happen and KO Sr. by doing it in a clean manner. It was a win all across the board for Pacquiao and his team (Roach, Arum, and Ariza) blew it for him.

I don't know man, Mayweather's been quite vocal about this fight and he's complied with everything, even the $10 million dollar penalty.

And after that weird message Pac addressed to Mayweather, I'm starting to think he's actually a Joan Guzman. Just because he doesn't speak English (well) doesn't mean he doesn't wear his pride through his speech back home.

[deejd]

Who started this ****? Thats right sr and he is a convicted felon. Uncle rodger is a known ex-crack addict. How convenient you ignore who i obviously was talking about and bring up Golden Boy...especially since supposedly Mayweather isn't working for them.

Pacquiao and Roach have both said within a week in smaller interviews. Arum and Top Rank are the ones speaking about 30 days and Pac's speech yesterday was obviously prepared by Top Rank (he doesn't speak English like that).

Why they pick Paulie...hmm maybe because they can't deal with Mayweather, I don't know, I can't speak for them.

Both camps have given ultimatums, both camps have caved to one extent. I don't think this is over yet.

Throughout this entire negotiation, Schaefer and Ellerbe have handled Mayweather's side. Roger nor Floyd during talks of this fight have outright said, "Manny, you are on steroids." Oh and I know Sr.'s been advocating this since the Hatton fight, I'm with you there man, but it looks awful for Pac to turn down the random blood testing and then file a lawsuit for defamation which even if the case were to even go through, won't win the fight for his reputation.

[brisgreat2007]

LMAO @ soooo many posters. YOU'RE ALL IDIOTS. I've read so many times people COMPLAINING about FLOYD wanting RANDOM drug tests. "People would laugh if Floyd asked Hatton or DLH for drug tests". No **** ******S. Manny's done something NO PERSON HAS EVER DONE BEFORE IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING. EVER. So it's ENTIRELY LOGICAL to be SU****IOUS. THE NVA IS A FAILURE OF AN ORGANIZATION. Manny "PACMAN" starting roiding shortly after losing ( actually winning ) his second fight with JMM. Notice the wins versus DLH, Hatton, Cotto. These are PREMIER fighters that Manny overpowered. Come on now, do you REALLY THINK he NATURALLY MOVED UP and GAINED power as he MOVED UP IN WEIGHT??? No offense, but you're a ****ing IDIOT if you do. FLOYDS CAMP IS SAYING, LET'S BE TRAIN AND FIGHT ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD VIA RANDOM DRUG TESTS. MANNY'S CAMP IS SAYING, IF THE FIGHTS GOTTA BE ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD... WE DON'T WANT THE FIGHT. MANNY DUCKMAN WILL LOSE TO FLOYD WITHOUT THE ASSISTANCE OF PED ( i think he'd lose either way ). SUP MAYWEATHER HATERS? I'm not a big mayweather fan but this is a classic bob arum act and pacman is truly fearful of entering the ring with only his natural strengths.

[deejd]

oh yeah they did give out turkey's in that movie didn't they. Damn you really had to reach back in the library for that. Must be your only reference to the ******.

Freddie trained him he wasn't his nutritionist. Nice try on your failure.

Yeah, it is.

Yeah so I guess Freddie wasn't in the know. Just like how Manny isn't in the know when it come to what Ariza is brewing up for him during his training camp.

[deejd]

I get the whole if your clean why not just do it. Believe me I do. I just know that if I hadn't done **** wronge and the cops came up to me on the street and asked me to do a line up for $50 I'd tell them to stick that $50 right up their ********. No freaking way am I taking the chance of someone pointing me out for something I didn't do.

Hahahahha, I see your point man.... but come one... if you're clean and you know, do it. It's just a little $40 million, I mean its not big money like $50 and a chance to get picked out of a line up.

I would use this instead.... if they showed up at my door with a warrant and they were searching for something I had been accused of and I'm 100 % sure that I'm clean, I'm rolling out red carpet as they're walking in.

$40 million and a chance to shut Mayweather up.... and the only thing stopping you is a few random blood tests, maybe Pac is mentally weak.

[Mr. Chago]

What's lost in all of this is who will Floyd fight, if not Pac? Will it be Matthew Hatton as he originally expressed interest in fighting? Is that acceptable in comparison to Pac/Malignaggi?

2nd option Mosley/Berto...PBF Team said that...

[Mr. Chago]

Hahahahha, I see your point man.... but come one... if you're clean and you know, do it. It's just a little $40 million, I mean its not big money like $50 and a chance to get picked out of a line up.

I would use this instead.... if they showed up at my door with a warrant and they were searching for something I had been accused of and I'm 100 % sure that I'm clean, I'm rolling out red carpet as they're walking in.

$40 million and a chance to shut Mayweather up.... and the only thing stopping you is a few random blood tests, maybe Pac is mentally weak.

No, Maybe PAC is physically cheat.

[jetgeomcx]

mayweathers know a lot about drugs.
they certainly know about "blood-doping (EPO)" hence their insistence on random blood testing.
floyd knows that epo can easily be cycled out of the body in a matter of few days.

i can accuse that floyd is on epo himself......he can sue me!
for why does he know and insist on "random blood testing" for manny??
..of course other than "he myt be afraid of fyting manny now :gay:

i read this somewhere....
the epo or blood-doping works by increasing the hematocrit level (red blood cells over total blood cells).
high hematocrit enhances oxygen uptake and utilization.
this translate to "long stamina".....very beneficial in training and in the later rounds of a fyt.

i am sure floyd is knowingly on epo himself

now manny.......
alex ariza is concocting his own "mix" for manny.
for sure manny and freddie doesn't know about the "mix".....but then.
'conditioning expert' ariza joined team manny during the david diaz fyt......

i hope manny is clean of any epo...