The 145 lbs catchweight against Cotto came out of Pacquiao's mouth, not only Roach.

[Gonzalez_Boxing]

One thing has been proven, Pacquiao is a certified liar. While I was mentioning how Arum wanted a 30 day cut off/ Roach wanted a 5 day cut off, I was constantly being hit with, "Pacquiao doesn't want to be tested 48 hours before the fight!". I from the very start said that I was more inclined to believe in Arum. The 30 days was obviously coming form somewhere. A week later, Paquiao himself says he wants a 30 day cut off. But we all thought 48 hours...


This only means one thing, Pacquiao did the same crap with the catchweight. I'm 100% sure he called for this, not only Roach but Pacquiao. They're all in it together. Pacquiao puts in that fake humble act (I've said this for Years, don't take offense) acts like he has zero athority, Roach then gets blamed for disabling Pacquiao's opponents, and Pacquiao is off easy.

Anyone who thinks these decisions aren't being green lighted by Manny is fooling themselves.

Bottom line, the fighter always calls the shots. Anyone who believes otherwise is a fool.

[Eric_Teaman]

What happen to you? I thought you are one of level headed posters around here? I guess that hate must be clouding up your mind.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Anyone who thinks these decisions aren't being green lighted by Manny is fooling themselves.

Bottom line, the fighter always calls the shots. Anyone who believes otherwise is a fool.

Alot of people here are fooling themselves on that, I was one of those people. I used to put all the blame on Roach.

[rao007]

Pacquiao wanted 145 because whole team discussed lowering the weight.

[American Dream]

One thing has been proven, Pacquiao is a certified liar. While I was mentioning how Arum wanted a 30 day cut off/ Roach wanted a 5 day cut off, I was constantly being hit with, "Pacquiao doesn't want to be tested 48 hours before the fight!". I from the very start said that I was more inclined to believe in Arum. The 30 days was obviously coming form somewhere. A week later, Paquiao himself says he wants a 30 day cut off. But we all thought 48 hours...


This only means one thing, Pacquiao did the same crap with the catchweight. I'm 100% sure he called for this, not only Roach but Pacquiao. They're all in it together. Pacquiao puts in that fake humble act (I've said this for Years, don't take offense) acts like he has zero athority, Roach then gets blamed for disabling Pacquiao's opponents, and Pacquiao is off easy.

I totally agree with you on this. before I thought he was so humble..then once this unfolded, I started hearing things of him being accused of cheating on his wife(will he sue those accusers too!)..and making demands himself..and the scandal surrounding his people (IE Ariza)
I think back to when he gets interviewed and he has the persona "I just fight, thats all I do"
as if he doesnt pick the terms of who he fights..ect..no offense to anyone here..but It reminds me when a person is from another country and pretends they arent good with english..then you overhear them speaking fluent english to another person..

[Doctor_Tenma]

I totally agree with you on this. before I thought he was so humble..then once this unfolded, I started hearing things of him being accused of cheating on his wife(will he sue those accusers too!)..and making demands himself..and the scandal surrounding his people (IE Ariza)
I think back to when he gets interviewed and he has the persona "I just fight, thats all I do"
as if he doesnt pick the terms of who he fights..ect..no offense to anyone here..but It reminds me when a person is from another country and pretends they arent good with english..then you overhear them speaking fluent english to another person..

Exactly how I feel 100%. You said this alot better then I did. ****, I bet Pacquiao can freestyle in english!

I'm atleast happy that someone understood where I'm coming from

[rao007]

One thing has been proven, Pacquiao is a certified liar. While I was mentioning how Arum wanted a 30 day cut off/ Roach wanted a 5 day cut off, I was constantly being hit with, "Pacquiao doesn't want to be tested 48 hours before the fight!". I from the very start said that I was more inclined to believe in Arum. The 30 days was obviously coming form somewhere. A week later, Paquiao himself says he wants a 30 day cut off. But we all thought 48 hours...


This only means one thing, Pacquiao did the same crap with the catchweight. I'm 100% sure he called for this, not only Roach but Pacquiao. They're all in it together. Pacquiao puts in that fake humble act (I've said this for Years, don't take offense) acts like he has zero athority, Roach then gets blamed for disabling Pacquiao's opponents, and Pacquiao is off easy.

Then you've falsely perceived Pacquiao. Like with everything team they discuss and finalize a plan...of course, Manny has input on the matter. I don't know where you got the idea that he didn't. He signs the contract afterall so he knows what he's getting himself into.

And I don't exactly know why his personally life has anything to do with it regardless of whether they're true or not as one poster commented in this thread.

[uragon ako]

I totally agree with you on this. before I thought he was so humble..then once this unfolded, I started hearing things of him being accused of cheating on his wife(will he sue those accusers too!)..and making demands himself..and the scandal surrounding his people (IE Ariza)
I think back to when he gets interviewed and he has the persona "I just fight, thats all I do"
as if he doesnt pick the terms of who he fights..ect..no offense to anyone here..but It reminds me when a person is from another country and pretends they arent good with english..then you overhear them speaking fluent english to another person..

Exactly how I feel 100%. You said this alot better then I did. ****, I bet Pacquiao can freestyle in english!

I'm atleast happy that someone understood where I'm coming from

hahaha glad you two make an acquaintance, from what asylum did you two came from?